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Corno di Bassetto

Postby shostakovich » Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:31 pm

What a great name! It's what George Bernard Shaw used as music critic in London in 1888, 89. He used his own name from 1890 - 94. I recently came across an article by Henry Pleasants from a March 1968 HIFI/STEREO REVIEW on Shaw as critic. I was going to just pick out his commentary on Mozart because of recent topics in the bulletin board, but there's so much I want to quote. In the following, my commentary will be in [brackets], Pleasants' in lower case, and Shaw's in CAPITALS, so you'll know where they are coming from. <P>[Pleasants:] It is unlikely there will ever be another critic quite like him. The solemn approach to music and to criticism that is fashionable nowadays would not for long tolerate Shaw's congenital and determined irreverance. Nor would a musical community, today, fail to expose the gaps in his musical education or to challenge the propriety of such avowedly personal and biased opinions. Music criticism, in our time, is expected to combine respectability, objectivity, decorum, learning, and good citizenship. Given these qualifications, it is little wonder that most of it is also unconscionably dull. <P>[Shaw was not dull. A few quickies are:]<BR>D'ANDRADE TOOK THE GREATEST PAINS TO BE A FAILURE AS FIGARO,AND SUCCEEDED.<BR>MR. [William] WALLACE [a composer] KNOWS HOW TO USE EVERY INSTRUMENT EXCEPT THE SCISSORS.<BR>SHE [Lady Halle] TOOK THE FIRST MOVEMENT OF BEETHOVEN'S SEPTUOR AT ABOUT TWO-THIRDS OF THE LOWEST SPEED NEEDED TO SUSTAIN LIFE; AND THE OTHERS FOLLOWED HER FROM NOTE TO NOTE, AND THOUGHT OF OTHER THINGS.<P>[on Mozart]<BR>MOZART ---- WAS NO LEADER OF A NEW DEPARTURE OR FOUNDER OF A SCHOOL.HE CAME AT THE END OF A DEVELOPMENT, NOT AT THE BEGINNING OF ONE. ---- IN ART THE GREATEST SUCCESS IS TO BE THE LAST OF YOUR RACE, NOT THE FIRST. ANYBODY, ALMOST, CAN MAKE A BEGINNING: THE DIFFICULTY IS TO MAKE AN END, AND TO DO WHAT CAN NOT BE BETTERED.<P>[He was a champion of Wagner in the 1890s. He wrote a little book called The Perfect Wagnerite, in which he explained Wagner's Ring in unique fashion. In the 1930s he was tired of Wagner's music and the overblown music that followed. I'm assuming that means Richard Srauss, among others. This is from 1935.]<BR>THE FUNERAL MARCH FROM GOTTERDAMMERUNG HARDLY KEEPS MY ATTENTION ---- THE POST-WAGNERIAN HARMONIC AND CONTRAPUNTAL ANARCHY IS SO COMPLETE THAT IT IS EASIER, TECHNICALLY, TO COMPOSE ANOTHER PARSIFAL THAN ANOTHER MASS IN B MINOR OR DON GIOVANNI.<P>[on Italian opera]<BR>In Mascagni, Leoncavallo, Puccini, and the late Verdi he saw a rebirth of Italian opera, and in Puccini, who, at the time, had not got beyond Manon Lescaut, he found the man WHO LOOKS TO ME MORE LIKE THE HEIR OF VERDI THAN ANY OF HIS RIVALS. And he sized up Ponchielli correctly enough: IT WOULD HAVE BEEN KINDER, EVEN WHEN PONCHIELLI WAS ALIVE, TO TELL HIM FRANKLY THAT ALL HIS STRAINING AT THE BOW OF ULYSSES WAS NOT BENDING IT ONE INCH.<P>[a few other pot shots] <BR>Some of Shaw's other lapses cannot be written off as mere symptoms of virulent Wagneritis, least of all his dismissal of Schubert's Symphony in C as an EXASPERATINGLY BRAINLESS COMPOSITION. ----<BR>But he was rarely so far off. Few, today, would quarrel with his references to Mendelssohn's KID-GLOVE GENTILITY, CONVENTIONAL SENTIMENTALITY, AND DESPICABLE ORATORIO-MONGERING, or to Schumann's LABORIOUSNESS AND DEPENDENCE ON EXTERNAL POETIC STIMULUS. <P>[I was amused at a parody he used to take writers of program notes to task. He mocked program notes to a scene in Hamlet.]<BR>SHAKESPEARE, DISPENSING WITH THE CUSTOMARY EXORDIUM, ANNOUNCES HIS SUBJECT AT ONCE IN THE INFINITIVE [To be], IN WHICH MOOD IT IS PRESENTLY REPEATED AFTER A SHORT CONNECTING PASSAGE IN WHICH, BRIEF AS IT IS, WE RECOGNIZE THE ALTERNATIVE AND NEGATIVE FORMS ON WHICH SO MUCH OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF REPETITION DEPENDS [or not to be]. HERE WE REACH A COLON [:]; AND A POINTED POSITORY PHRASE, IN WHICH THE ACCENT FALLS DECISIVELY ON THE RELATIVE PRONOUN, BRINGS US TO THE FIRST FULL STOP [that is the question.]. <P>[I think Shaw's point in the above is to say you don't need program notes to enjoy a concert, but what a marvelous way to bring home the point.]<P>[I don't know how many people will get a kick out of the Shaw comments. There's a lot to think about, and a lot to argue with. Anyway, if you weren't impressed you'll know which topic not to come back to.<BR>Shos]<BR>
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Re: Corno di Bassetto

Postby serge urtizberea » Mon Jan 29, 2001 9:16 pm

I love those notes, Shos! Keep them coming; I am sure no one here will tire of reading entertaining but informed comments from a great playwright/author like Shaw. In fact, I really enjoy reading commentary of this sort from all kinds of intelligent and honest artists. I wonder if Oscar Wilde or anyone of his stature made criticism of c.m. If you have anything more of this nature, please put it up, Shos Image One reason I enjoy their kind of commentary is that they've already made a name for themselves though their writing, so having them apply it to c.m. is in a way a sort of celebrity endorsement or judgement.
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Re: Corno di Bassetto

Postby Michael » Wed Jan 31, 2001 7:37 pm

Thanks again, Shos, for your always very interesting postings. There are two volumes of Bernard Shaw's musical criticism in my public library and, a few years back, I took home one of them for a good read. When I tried to take out the second volume, I found that, in future, they can only be studied in the library. As each book is fairly hefty, I should need to set up camp there.<BR>On the good news side, by sheer coincidence, there is a programme on radio next week devoted to - yes - Corno di Bassetto!<BR>Shaw was a brilliant music critic - even if he did have some negative things to say about my favourite Beethoven sonata, the "Waldstein". (I never forget!)<P>Michael
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Re: Corno di Bassetto

Postby shostakovich » Wed Jan 31, 2001 10:44 pm

Thanks, Serge and Michael for the votes of confidence. I would guess Oscar Wilde had some musical commentary. I don't know why music should escape his wit. As for Corno di Bassetto, I hope to read a report on the program next week. I wonder what he knocked the Waldstein about. Maybe his gall bladder was acting up. <BR>A local station was playing Scubert in honor of his birthday. Since I haven't seen it yet on the bulletin board,<BR>HAPPY BIRTHDAY SCUBERT!!!!<BR>Whew, that was close. It's almost Feb here.<BR>Shos
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Re: Corno di Bassetto

Postby Michael » Thu Feb 01, 2001 7:29 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by shostakovich:<BR>. As for Corno di Bassetto, I hope to read a report on the program next week. I wonder what he knocked the Waldstein about. Maybe his gall bladder was acting up. <BR>Shos[/B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I've located the actual quote, although it seems that he was having a go at a certain Miss Zimmerman as well as the Master:<P>"Everybody acknowledges that the first movement of the Waldstein is a colossal piece of music. I confess I have never been able to see it. It certainly was not colossal as Miss Zimmerman scampered through it, and for the life of me I do not know what else she could have done with a long, scrappy movement which is neither bravura nor tone poem, though it asserts itself occasionally in both directions.<BR>The allegretto, which is the really popular and interesting part of the sonata, was admirably played, the exposition of the theme being particularly happy. Miss Zimmerman got a double recall."<P>A worse attack on this piece was made by Norman Suckling in a book on Gabriel Faure, of all people, but I can't find the exact quotes. However,in general, Shaw (Corno) was not at all anti-Beethoven, so I'll forgive his tiny lapse. After all, you can't expect everyone to like every single work of Beethoven's (even though I do!) And, judging by Shaw's other works, his gall bladder must have been constantly acting up. Still, his name is going down in my little black book - as a first offence.<P>Michael<BR>
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Re: Corno di Bassetto

Postby ~Leslie » Thu Feb 01, 2001 11:51 pm

Shos, I do thank you emphatically for posting Shaw's witty criticisms, this is the stuff I truly live for.<P>Yes it's true that modern critics are bound & gagged, but we lucky interneters are not. I must read more of this man. I do have a friend who writes like this, and now I'm seeing where he got his style. <P>My time honored favorite is Mark Twain's<BR>comment that Wagner's music is much better than it sounds. ~#:^)))
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Re: Corno di Bassetto

Postby shostakovich » Fri Feb 02, 2001 11:39 am

Great Twain comment, too. He was a gem. He lived in the Hartford area for a while, and the city has a weekend festival in the summer called Twain Days with Twain impersonators. In fact, you can meet Mark, his wife, Olivia, Harriet Beecher Stowe, and Frederick Douglass on those weekends.<BR>Shos
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Re: Corno di Bassetto

Postby shostakovich » Sat Feb 17, 2001 1:46 am

I just found another article from an ancient HIFI/Stereo Review on criticism of composers by composers. How ancient? There was an add for a Marantz preamplifier with TUBES. Ah, the good old days. Anyway, I thought I'd stick it with Shaw's criticisms. On going through the topic I saw, Michael, that you were anticipating a program on Shaw. Did you catch it?<P>ON 21ST MAY (1792), GIARDINI'S CONCERT TOOK PLACE IN RANELAGH GARDENS. HE PLAYED LIKE A PIG.<BR>Josef Haydn<P>RAVEL IS A ROME PRIZE-WINNER OF VERY GREAT TALENT. A KIND OF SPLENDIFEROUS DEBUSSY. HE ASSURES ME EVERY TIME I SEE HIM THAT HE IS GREATLY INDEBTED TO ME. WITH WHICH I AM QUITE READY TO AGREE.<BR>Eric Satie<P>IN BEETHOVEN I LOVE THE MIDDLE PERIOD, AT TIMES THE FIRST, BUT I FUNDAMENTALLY DETEST THE LAST, ESPECIALLY THE LAST QUARTETS. <BR>Peter Tchaikovsky<P>HE (GLUCK) KNOWS NO MORE OF COUNTERPOINT ALS MEIN COOK.<BR>Handel, showing off his ability to speak (fractured) English<P>ANY TIME A COMPOSER TELLS ME HE LIKES MOZART, I KNOW HE IS A BAD MUSICIAN.<BR>Frederick Delius<P>HE (WAGNER) HAS POSITIVELY NO TALENT AT ALL. HIS MELODIES ARE EVEN CHEAPER THAN VERDI'S AND MORE BITTERSWEET THAN MENDELSSOHN'S AT HIS WORST. <BR>Cesar Cui (minor member of the "Mighty 5")<P>THERE IS A DEFINITE LIMIT TO THE LENGTH OF TIME A COMPOSER CAN GO ON WRITING IN ONE DANCE RHYTHM. THIS LIMIT IS OBVIOUSLY REACHED BY RAVEL TOWARD THE END OF LA VALSE, AND TOWARD THE BEGINNING OF BOLERO.<BR>Constant Lambert<P>I WOULD FURTHER INFORM YOU THAT SOME TEN DAYS AGO I RECEIVED FROM YOU A LETTER IN WHICH YOU ENCLOSED THE MANUSCRIPT OF GOETHE'S ERLKONIG, ALLEGEDLY SET TO MUSIC BY ME. WITH THE GREATEST ASTONISHMENT, I WISH TO STATE THAT THIS CANTATA WAS NEVER COMPOSED BY ME. I SHALL RETAIN THE SAME IN MY POSSESSION IN ORDER TO FIND OUT, IF POSSIBLE, WHO SENT YOU THAT SORT OF RUBBISH IN SUCH AN IMPOLITE MANNER, AND ALSO TO DISCOVER THE FELLOW WHO HAS THUS MISUSED MY NAME.<BR>Franz Anton Schubert to his publisher regarding confusion of his name with that of the unknown Franz Peter Schubert
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Re: Corno di Bassetto

Postby Michael » Sat Feb 17, 2001 7:56 am

Actually, it turns out to be a weekly series on Shaw's criticism, which is read out and then the piece he was describing is played. Very entertaining.<BR>I was amused at the quotes you turned up. Poor Mozart seems to have been given a very raw deal up to about 1980 when the movie of "Amadeus" came out. I was looking through an old encyclopaedia recently where it says:<BR>"Much as we may admire the music of Mozart, with Beethoven we are taken to a world of greater musical ideas altogether".<BR>Strong stuff! I also came across a reference to an acclaimed music critic of the thirties or forties, who sat listening to one of Mozart's later symphonies. He was shaking his head in sorrow at the poor quality of the music.<BR>Isn't there a book called "The Dictionary of Musical Invective?" That would be great fun to read, I'm sure.<P>Michael
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Re: Corno di Bassetto

Postby shostakovich » Sun Feb 18, 2001 12:51 am

Hi Michael. Good to hear from you. How old was that encyclopedia? The invective book would definitely be a good one to peruse. I think I remember "Lexicon of Musical Invective". It was once referenced on a music program called "The Listening Room", hosted wonderfully by Ronald Steele, a professor at Univ of Mass. As I remember it, he said there was not one word about Mozart in the book.<P>I dug out a book called Composers on Composers. I think I'll start posting some excerpts in a new topic heading. Cheers.<BR>Shos
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