rhythmic HELP!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!

[trombonepirate]

OT sounds like you were the sort of student that all the rest of us wanted to strangle. Naw, seriously that's way cool! I remember Aug 6th chords were my personal nemesis (or should that be nemeses?). *shudder* Now that I've started trying to do arrangements I really wish I had better dictation skills.

violinist4ever - yep I'm still a music student. In my senior year (cue Handel). At the moment I'm actually trying to desperately finish up my finals. Working on a 12 page paper that I started at 2:00 pm today. Grr! I really hate school right now.

[violinist4ever]

I know how that goes, TBP...I'm actually writing a paper and studying for a final tonight ..yikes!

[OperaTenor]

If it's any consolation, I was in Hemiola Hell this evening at church choir rehearsal. One piece we're doing is in a fast 3/8............well, most of the time, I think, and has syncopated duple suspensions over it ~50% of the time. I think part of that was written to feel like it was in 4 over a 3 pulse. Hairy.

Of course, you can also take comfort in the fact I never completed my degree, only one year, as a matter of fact. Ran out of money. However, I got 64 term credits in that one year, and 3.48(as I recall) GPA for the year. I was at school a lot that year.

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[Selma in Sandy Eggo]

What did Altoid think of Hemiola Hell? What the heck were you lot rehearsing????!

Wow, dude, it's supposed to be Advent, not Lent!

[violinist4ever]

Wow, OT, 64 credits in one year?!? YIKES! I don't think I even make 40 credits a year....

[trombonepirate]

Yeah OT that's a LOT of credits. I'm surprised you can even string together a sentence after all the brain abuse.
So what was this piece called. It sounds way more advanced than anything my church choir would even attempt.
TBP

[OperaTenor]

I'll have to check, but my recollection is Estampie Natus Est, but that title doesn't google.

Remind me to check Thursday.

As for the credits, they were term credits, and very few required general ed subjects taken - almost all music courses. In retrospect, given I didn't complete a degree(yet, maybe), I'm glad I crammed as much music into that one year that I did.

[violinist4ever]

How are your finals going, TBP?

OT...How have you ever taken a Latin (the language) course?

[piqaboo]

I thunk a hemiola was a kind of citrus fruit. Whew gnu?

Besides, trombone players don't need good ears. We usually are playing too loud to hear the rest of the group anyway.

I thought that was Tenors.

[OperaTenor]

Hi V4E,

I've never taken Latin, just gleaned some meaning from stuff I've sung over the years. Beg pardon if "estampie natus est" is nothing but gibberish.

As for what Piq said, maybe that's why I always had a burning desire to play trombone!

[dai bread]

Apropos of brass players' ears, my Private Trumpter (who has gone back to the Army, alas) has diminished hearing in one ear. He attributes it to years of playing in brass bands. It would have been enough to keep him out of the Army if other considerations (like his ability to play the trumpet) hadn't prevailed.

[OperaTenor]

I'm probably 4-F(medically disqualified for the military) on my hearing these days. I have drug-induced tinnitis(ringing ears), going back to 1992. After it started, I was afraid I wouldn't be able to sing again, and for several years would ask singers next to me to let me know if I was out of tune, because I wasn't sure if I could hear rightly. By all accounts, I apparently can still hear well enough to sing. I've had other musicians gape at me after I've revealed my condition to them, especially instrumentalists, strangely.

My piano tuning days are over forever, sadly.

[Trumpetmaster]

Originally posted by OperaTenor:
I'm probably 4-F(medically disqualified for the military) on my hearing these days. I have drug-induced tinnitis(ringing ears), going back to 1992. After it started, I was afraid I wouldn't be able to sing again, and for several years would ask singers next to me to let me know if I was out of tune, because I wasn't sure if I could hear rightly. By all accounts, I apparently can still hear well enough to sing. I've had other musicians gape at me after I've revealed my condition to them, especially instrumentalists, strangely.

My piano tuning days are over forever, sadly.

OT,

KORG Chromatic Tuner

I use it all the time & it is very helpful for me.

This one was listed on Amazon.com for $15.75


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Hope this helps.

TM

[DavidS]

People who are creative in spite of handicaps deserve our respect, admiration and gratitude.
Look at Beethoven, Dvořák (I read somewhere that he also became hard of hearing), John Milton, Helen Keller, Andrea Bocelli, Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, Rodrigo (also blind), Stephen Hawking...

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[OperaTenor]

Hi TM,

I'm of the aural tuning persuasion when it comes to tuning pianos. When I was in high school, I apprenticed a piano rebuilder for a couple of years, and learned about them from the frame up. One thing my mentor contended, and I agree wholeheartedly, is that every piano, no matter how assembly line cookie-cut, if you will, is unique by nature of the materials it is constructed from, and will tune differently in order to bring out the best tone. There is no strobe tuner that can compensate for it, so, for tuning pianos, I don't have any faith in them. To my knowledge, to this day, the best tuners will at least do their final tuning by ear(they might tune the temperment octaves with a strobe, inititally).

Would anyone like me to launch into a long explanation of the physics of tuning a piano? I found it to be a fascinating study of vibration and harmonics.

Or, if anyone has any questions about piano construction.......



PS. Having said all that, I think strobes do have their place tuning other instruments, especially instruments that have only one vibrator, and don't rely on multiplication of pitch vibration for volume.

[Trumpetmaster]

OT,
understood....

It's a tool...
not the solution to world hunger....

We are getting a pipe organ installed at
our church.... What a sound... Talk about
tuning and adjusting.... Previously organ was
electric... ugh... not the same sound...

It should be finished this week in time
for X-Mas Eve!!!! I am looking forward to it very much!!

Regards,
TM

[OperaTenor]

I think pipe organs rock! You ever get to Sandy Eggo, we'll have to go to a Sunday organ concert at Balboa park.

Our church replaced their cruddy electronic organ witha really expensive electronic($70,000!!!!!!!) several years ago, and even spent some money to put real pipes in front of the speakers to give the impression...........
Doesn't that just seem wrong?

It sounds great for an electronic, but......

[mamagrabber]

I wish you guys would preach that to our church congregation. We are the only church in our small town with a pipe organ. The "contemporaries" are trying to replace the organ music with guitars, drums, etc. They think the organ went the way of the dinosaurs.

[BigJon@Work]

Can I line your congregation up for a group smack, a la the Three Stooges?

[OperaTenor]

Originally posted by ks organist:
I wish you guys would preach that to our church congregation. We are the only church in our small town with a pipe organ. The "contemporaries" are trying to replace the organ music with guitars, drums, etc. They think the organ went the way of the dinosaurs.

Let me at 'em!

It's been my observation that converting church music formats to contemporary or folk don't last. People get bored with it pretty quickly.

There is good reason the old warhorses are what they are, and why classic sacred music is still around.