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bignaf wrote:the development section is pretty lousy, which is a Schubertian characteristic. he doesn't break up his themes into little motives, he keeps them whole, in almost all his large scale forms. the same occurs here.
the second theme is Schubertian in its dance-like rhythm. it is also a great melody. none of Schubert's contemporaries compares to him even remotely in writing good tunes. this is a great tune.
bignaf wrote:what leads you to say is un-Schubertian? just the existence of a slow intro? at this time Schubert's style was going a big change, as can be seen in the piano sonatas of the time, where he strikes out in different directions. I think one of them has a slow intro, which hasn't been in his sonatas earlier either.
Your statement regarding Schubert's importance taking a big blow is because of your obsession with orchestral music. I'm not a big fan of the Unfinished, I think Schubert is pretty bad at development, he tries to imitate Beethoven, but misses the point, and his themes are really not suitable for development. Schubert's greatrest music are his lieder. he would be known as a great composer for them alone.
anyway, who could write the tune of the 2nd theme, other than Schubert?
shostakovich wrote:... For my money, there is nothing (else?) in Schubert's orchestral music with anything approaching the depth of feeling and everlasting beauty of the Unfinished. My feeling is unshakeable.
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