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Bones wrote:The question was simply which of Beethoven's contemporaries was better than Cherubini. One simple answer to that is Schubert, who was unquestionably superior in every way to Cherubini.
shostakovich wrote:[Thanks, Bones. That looks like the best answer. I think Hummel was pretty well regarded. I'm not sure why the restriction on opera composers. Cherubini was one. Others were Salieri, Rossini, Weber, Spohr. Maybe the last 3 hit their stride after Beethoven answered the question.
bignaf wrote:Beethoven had very limited exposure (and possibly none, I think the story about him seeing Schubert songs was told by the unreliable Anton Schindler) to Schubert's music. so he doesn't count.
I think Rossini is a better composer than Cherubini, that's why the limitation on opera. It would be very difficult for the composer of Fidelio to like The Barber of Seville. he had some cordial comments about Rossini, but privately seemed to despise him, which is natural, considering his concept of opera.
I don't think you can say Hummel is clearly and widely regarded as better than Cherubini.
In any case, no one of the time really stands out as being much better than Cherubini.
bignaf wrote:that's early for schubert, as far as being known in Vienna, since I think he just came back from teaching some girls of some nobleman out in the country at the time...
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