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Postby bignaf » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:03 pm

i got it from your information about the Tempos of the movements. you said the outer movements were like the Italian concerto: allegro and presto, and the middle different. I have the gould CD, so that helped.
the info regarding it being a solo harpsichord piece was alittle confusing. since the original is a harpsichord and orchestra piece... but I guess that's what you meant.
the guesser of my 30Q #7 will do the next one.
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Postby shostakovich » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:13 pm

Is that the one with the pretty Arioso 2nd movement?
My "solo concerto", called Italian, is in F major, BWV971. 2nd mvmt Adagio.
My harpsichord and orchestra concerto in F minor is BWV 1056, not called Italian. 2nd mvmt Largo.
I didn't check them out (too tired right now), but I wonder if one is a revision of the other.

My recording of 5 solo concertos after Vivaldi (BWV 972-76) are what I called the Italian concertos, although they are not so designated.
Bach works are a challenge to straighten out.
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Postby bignaf » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:30 pm

The Italian Concerto (the one in F major) is very famous. when a person says " Bach's Italian concerto" he/she is most likely refering to this one. the f minor concerto is not a revision of it.
The Vivaldi concerti are based on Vivaldi violin and orchestra concerti. Bach makes it confusing by calling solo pieces "concerto." the Italian concerto is not a concerto, but was written in imitation of the style usually encountered in the Italian violin concerti.
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Postby Serenity » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:37 pm

I didn't know what I was getting myself into when I randomly pulled a cassette out of my collection and then randomly picked the third concerto on the album.

When I googled Bach Piano Concerto in F minor to look up a little more information on the piece, I got back links that did not have the word Piano in them. Some were with harpsichord, others with violin and strings, others with oboe, etc. I finally figured that he had originally written it for harpsichord and the others were instrumental variants of the same concerto. And when I googled the BVW 1056 number, a couple of the links pointed out that it was a concerto that was a transcription from a lost Violin Concerto in G minor. Huh? Then I thought WOW this just might stump the experts on the bulletin board.

Anywho, I've learned a lot playing this 30 questions game as i dig the internet for answers.
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Postby bignaf » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:45 pm

I learned some stuff from this too. but also got a spinning head.
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