Bignaf......THAT post is truly the beginnings of a cleverly cunning classic...."Back off Shos..I haven't seen YOU alliterate!!"
I think you should spend a few hours working on it and refine it to a routine worthy of a Shostikovich put down.
Nope. There is NO EVIDENCE Pete ever bet when he played...notice I said "no evidence."
Maybe he did....but then...maybe they ALL did. Bottom line pal?
You can't disprove a negative. i.e. "We can't prove Walt Disney was a pinko, commie, faggotty girly boy"
Big, i REALLY want you to expand that thought!!!
I'm usually flip and comedic and - dare I say it - incredibly witty and oh so sophisticated and observant, but.
<Takes a deep breath, lets it out a little, holds it, squeeeezzze the trigger>
Richard Wagner, 1813-83
He was an arrogant, vile, suspicious, nasty, intolerant white supremacist who mistrust Jews, and blacks, and poor people, and Eastern Europeans, and Orientals, and he PROBABLY read and believed the "Dialogues in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu", published by the non-Jewish French satirist Maurice Joly in 1864, which was the precursor of the virulent anti-Semitic “"Protocols of the Elders of Zion."
He despised anyone who he felt was his intellectual or genetic inferior. He reviled and frequently railed against almost any group that wasn’t white, protestant, upper class, etc.
So, this terrible man was……typical of ALL 19th century elitist groups of intellectuals, writers, composers, poets, politicians, and……
Typical of any group of anybody in Europe and the U.S. who was white, lower, middle or upper class, actually, typical of, well, ANYONE in Europe AND the U.S. who WASN’T Jewish.
<Weapon fires, recoils, surprising the shooter, who exhales>
Guys, gals and dear hearts, SO WHAT?!?! I like Don Ho's “Tiny Bubbles…” early Madonna music, Dixie Chicks, and <sigh> it’s no secret here, I even professed an admiration for early “Milli Vanilli” <softly cries to himself, “Why did they doooo it??? sobs, sniff> cleans himself up.
Now, I feel I can get to the main point of my point.
I like Wagner. I have always liked Wagner. My wife - red headed, NASTY tempered Yankee nurse - likes Wagner, My sons like Wagner!
I can remember my mother-in-law, struck dumbfounded when my 9-year-old sons sat, spell bound, watching and listening to the entire “Ring” on PBS for two night.
Watching it IN German WITH all the fat Germans…I got hemorrhoids trying to keep up with them. I was in PAIN and couldn’t stand it and they never stopped watching.
I asked them what did they liked, the music, the <snigger> singing, the <snigger, squared> fat Germans, or <Snig~et al Cubed> the 1950’s stage setting?
They said – they were nine – they said “Daddy, it made me feel good” (see note below)
Wagnerian music makes me FEEL GOOD. I can’t help it. I like it. I want to to put on a helmet with horns on it and terrorize Ireland, my ancestral home, with one of those big hammers; and guess what????
I LOVE Bug Bunny's “What’s Opera Doc”
“Oh Brunhilda you’re so lovely”, “Yes I know it I can’t help it”
Am I a racist, bigoted, intellectual snob? NO! – well O.K. I’ll concede the “snob” allegation.
I - just - like - the - music.
Its uplifting and, under the right circumstances, when I look at the Milky Way when I listen to Wagner, I get tears in my eyes.
On Dec 23, 1992, I was in a town us vulgar G.I.s called "Kiss-my-Ass" but was actually Kismayu, Somalia, about 400 feet North of the Equator. No ground light, no distractions – i.e. no one was shooting at me at the time – and I had Wagner on my Walkman and could see the Milky Way AND the Southern Cross…and.....It was an epiphany.
The man might have been a despicable human by 20th / 21st century standards, but guess what? Most of them, including most of YOUR ancestors, were too.
But, Oh lord, for me, he wrote stirring and beautiful, beautiful music.
If you hate horns and pomposity and Fat Germans, and Norse legends and all that Uber crap……fine - note please I never once said "Krauts" oops, oh crap!!!
If you don't like it, fine, don't like it, that's your right. But don't not like it for the wrong reasons.
It's great music........
WOW!!! I feel like a -err "an" - editor!!!
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