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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby Marye » Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:53 pm

I don't know.... Aljazeera has always reported that Al Quada favours Bush as HE is their common enemy. Now would be Kerry's opportunity to remind the undecideds that BUSH has had three years to catch Bin Laden and did not...

We will likely hear "Tora Bora" "Tora Bora" again.

This might come back to bite him in the #$$

March 13, 2002


THE PRESIDENT: And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.


October 13, 2004


PRESIDENT BUSH: Gosh, I don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. That's kind of one of those exaggerations.

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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby OperaTenor » Fri Oct 29, 2004 7:49 pm

UBL did a grand job of pretending to be alive and well for a dead man.

It's a good thing we've been focusing so much of our energy and resources on Iraq.

I'm with Shos. ABBA.

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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby RC » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:50 pm

don't know.... Aljazeera has always reported that Al Quada favours Bush as HE is their common enemy.
I didn't know that Marye.

Do you suppose THAT is the reason it was released just before the election? I heard bin Laden actually said that it doesn't matter who we elect...

???

If I thought Bush would nail that bastitch, I'd vote for him. (Or rather, would have voted for him since I already cast my vote).
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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby OperaTenor » Sat Oct 30, 2004 12:38 am

I think that if the Bush administration was really in the anti-terrorism business, I'd vote for him, too.

But to me that tape is direct evidence that the Bush administration isn't really interested in combating terrorism, unless there's money to be made.

I don't know a single person who thought we did the wrong thing by going to war in Afghanistan to unseat the Taliban and root out Al Qaeda. It seemed we were going after the SOB's who ruthlessly attacked us. And the impression I get is the majority of the world's nations were right there with us. Now it has all gone to hell. We have proof the chief perpetrator is still alive, our major accomplishments in Iraq are ousting Saddam and creating a fertile breeding ground for more terrorists, as well as alienating the majority of our allies in the world.

ABBA

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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby GreatCarouser » Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:29 am

Originally posted by RC:
I listend to Guliani blame the troops for the missing weapons in Iraq on Good Morning America yesterday....
Of course it's the troops' fault. We certainly can't blame their leaders who were over here....doing nothing (campaigning :p )can we? :roll: :mad:


Is that the same Giuliani who moved in with his mistress while he was still married? Where's that famous right-wing moral outrage? Where's Ken Starr?

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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby GreatCarouser » Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:42 am

"Another nail for your coffin, sir?"

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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby NudewigVonB » Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:06 pm

One more reason folks,

ABBA, and VTMO
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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby NudewigVonB » Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:07 pm

But wait a minute, isn't it supposed to be Any Body But Bush??? That's ABBB. What's ABBA?

Keep the faith, VTMO always works!!
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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby OperaTenor » Sat Oct 30, 2004 7:23 pm

Hi Nvb,

It's actually Anybody But Bush Again.

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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby Marye » Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:53 pm

OT... you are very correct. The world was behind the U.S. going into Afghanistan. It was the right thing to do...but not about Iraq. It was insupportable, though to be honest, I am worried what Kerry will do WHEN he is elected. :D

And RC, I have been reading Aljazeera, and the Jerusalem Post and many English papers for the past two months .... sort of dropping in to see what condition our condition is in. ;)
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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby analog » Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:26 pm

:)

thanks folks, been interesting. Learned a lot.

This article, in combination with that Frontline "Rumsfeld's War", have changed my perception. http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/hayes1.html


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over and out.

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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby Serenity » Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:02 pm

The Green Bay Packers beat the Washington Redskins today. The result predicts a victory for John Kerry on Tuesday. The final home game of the Redskins before the presidential election has aaccurately predicted the White House winner. If the Redskins win, the incumbent party wins. If they lose, the incumbent party loses.

The streak began in 1933, when the Boston Braves were renamed the Redskins. Since then, beginning with Franklin Roosevelt's re-election in 1936 and continuing every four years, the trend has held, including the 2000 Redskins loss to the Tennessee Titans that predicted Bush's win over Gore.
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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby OperaTenor » Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:58 am

Hi Analog,

Thanks for sharing the article, quite illuminating. Welcome to the club. :D

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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby Marye » Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:56 am

analog ...

I too watched Frontline "Rumsfeld's War" and was appropriately disgusted. AND I rented The Fog of War this weekend. I could not help but think that Rumsfeld is trying to be McNamara. Even in appearance.... Interestingly, McNamara when Secretary of Defense was asked if he ever made mistakes. He did not hesitate to respond "oh yes..."

There were other shocking admissions in that documentary...
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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby shostakovich » Mon Nov 01, 2004 3:13 pm

Hi Serenity:"The Green Bay Packers beat the Washington Redskins today. The result predicts a victory for John Kerry on Tuesday. The final home game of the Redskins before the presidential election has accurately predicted the White House winner. If the Redskins win, the incumbent party wins. If they lose, the incumbent party loses."

B U T

The Red Sox and Patriots had some major streaks come to an end. Can a senator from Massachusetts go against this trend of reversals? After all, it would be tragic if the Redskins lost for NOTHING!
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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby barfle » Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:33 pm

Originally posted by OperaTenor:
VTMO!
ABBA!
VTMO?

Vote the bastards out!

We need new bastards.

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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby OperaTenor » Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:20 pm

Okay, that works for me...

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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby RC » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:45 am

Hope you haven't already cast your vote for Bush, look what just came out:
The Arabic-language network al-Jazeera aired portions of the videotape Friday, but released the full transcript of the tape on its Web site Monday to dispel rumors it had edited out direct threats.

Among comments not released until Monday, bin Laden said: "We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy," adding it was "easy for us to provoke and bait this administration."

As part of the "bleed-until-bankruptcy plan," bin Laden cited a British estimate that it cost al-Qaida about $500,000 to carry out the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, an amount he said paled in comparison with the costs incurred by the United States.

"Every dollar of al-Qaida defeated a million dollars, by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs," he said.

U.S. intelligence officials confirmed Monday the transcript made public Monday was a complete one, CNN reported.
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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby OperaTenor » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:06 am

It really sucks to be outsmarted by a bunch of religious zealots. :(

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Re: Why Not Bush

Postby analog » Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:35 pm

Thanks Marye for reminding me about "Fog of War".

It was the coming attraction at our neighborhood theater when I left Idaho. Hasn't shown up here - hopefully it will make the $5 DVD pile at Walmart.
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