Is George Bush the right leader for America?

[monkeymd2b]

I have no idea who I'm going to vote for. I'm not even registered yet and don't know if I will since neither candidate appeals to me. I grew up in a pro-democratic household and pretty much just voted that way in previous elections (actually, I just asked my parents how they were voting and did the same). But now I'm basically being told that while the democratic ticket is idealistic, for my future financial success as a doctor, I should vote republican. And then with edwards being a malpractice attorney (the devil's best friend), that probably means that a national malpractice cap would be squashed. In the end, does it really matter who wins? all the promises on the campaign trail are rarely followed through on and who can say for sure that the one that lost would have done a better job? And since I would vote in louisiana, a state that goes to the republicans in presidential elections (though oddly enough there hasn't been a republican senator since the reformation), does my one democratic vote really matter? I promise not to bitch and whine if the whole country falls to pot if the new prez screws up.

I didn't think Laura Bush did anything outstanding in the past 4 years. Or maybe she did and it just wasn't impressive enough to warrant news covereage. Or maybe I was wrong in thinking that if she was important, she should have appeared in a Simpson's episode on Fox. Compared to Hillary, who seemed to be in the news just as often as her prez hubby, Laura is like some adoring wife who smiles pretty for the photos. Her daughters make more headlines.

Why was W the one to pursue the presidency and not Jeb? He certainly looks and seemed to sound more intelligent. But that's just based on what I heard from him regarding the hurricane.

[shostakovich]

Originally posted by Shapley [I take some exceptions in brackets]
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Lliam,

In my opinion, George W. Bush is the right leader for America, chosen from the current list of candidates or candidate couldabins. [You are certainly entitled to express this opinion]

President Bush is resolute [or "stubborn", as one chooses]. He has a definite goal in the war on terror, and he is pursuing it [ and that goal is to not lose face, no matter how many die. "Democracy in the middle east" sounds a little classier.]. He did not lie [but he selected the intelligence that promoted what he had already decided to do] to get us into war, regardless of what many claim (despite mounting evidence that he didn't). The terrorism currently being conducted against such countries as France and Russia clearly shows that appeasment is not the answer [or it shows that the war in Iraq encouraged this terrorism --- we'll never know]. We did not ask for this war, it was brought to us, and we are answering it [9/11 was brought to us. The war in Afghanistan is not unreasonable. The war in Iraq is, and it was Bush's choice.] . Not every decision Mr. Bush makes will be correct, but it will be done with a clear intent to win the war against those who seek to destroy us.
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Your reservations about Kerry may be well taken, but any atrocities he personally commited pale in comparison to the "collateral damage" caused during the Iraq war. As for Kerry's 20 year record in the senate, it hardly did as much wrong as Bush's first 3 years in the White House (environment, war, Medicare, ruining our image in the world including half of this country). I know this won't change your opinion, Shap, and that's not my intent. I simply can't pass up a chance to Bush-bash, since that ignoramus has no business holding any important office.
Respectfully, Shos

[haggis]

"have no idea who I'm going to vote for. I'm not even registered yet and don't know if I will since neither candidate appeals to me."

Scrappleface

Here you go MD, a recommendaion

"Bush To Undecided Voters: Choose Kerry
by Scott Ott
(2004-09-04) -- President George Bush today said he has a message for undecided voters, the most coveted constituency for both Republicans and Democrats: 'On November 2, vote for John Kerry. If you're undecided, he's your man."

"Contrary to conventional wisdom, I'm not trying to sway those who disagree with me or hate me," said Mr. Bush. "'Cause I don't want to spend the next four years beholden to a bunch of people who can't make up their minds quickly when given a clear choice. I'll have plenty of votes if I just inspire the people who agree with me to go vote for me."

Mr. Bush also said he doesn't want undecided voters slowing down the lines at the polling places.

"You'll be standing there scratching your ear over which chad to punch, while my supporters will be stuck behind you, eager to vote and get back to business," he said. "If you're undecided, just vote for Kerry and high-tail it out of there. Then when I win, you can tell all your friends you were disenfranchised again."

[The Great Carouser]

[quote]Originally posted by The Great Carouser:
[b] So let me see if I've got this straight.....$50 US to any charity the group names if King George gets elected this time? If that's the deal than I'll cover it.

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[Selma in Sandy Eggo]

I'd like to nominate Planned Parenthood for the charity. Any other nominations?

Ask the mrhyn if she's got a favorite.

[RC]

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[RC]

Planned Parenthood sounds good to me, I'll second.


Hey, if any of you have a chance, go ahead and read the Congressional Budget Office report regarding the stupid budget deficit.

It's about as exciting as the Old Testement without the firey punctuations but it is THE difinitive non-partisan government economic forecasting machine. NO journalism involved.

I know you are all intelligent enough to slog through it given the time.

I agree with Haggis (again? ), regarding journalists and I discovered that, with the internet, I don't need someone else to interpret for me.

[RC]

JIm "Hey RC, that's a pretty good mockup of the Congressional Budget Office website!" B.

MOOOHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! (evil grin)

[RC]

I have no idea who I'm going to vote for. I'm not even registered yet and don't know if I will since neither candidate appeals to me.

I have mixed emotions about that. It is hard for me to imagine how we've come to a point where citizens care so little that they forfeit the right and forego a certain responsibility to participate.

Please don't be offended Monkeymd, this is not directed at you specifically. I've been there myself.

On the other hand, if you haven't any idea who to vote for this year in particular, you probably haven't studied the candidates that closely, (they are nearly polar opposites on the big issues). So maybe it would be a good idea NOT to vote.

I felt the same way about the candidates in the last presidential election and regret my vote.

[The Great Carouser]

This is in response to the President's temper tantrum directed at the undecided voter. Make sure the sound is on....

Laughing cat

[piqaboo]

[quote]Originally posted by Haggis:
[b] Oh, BTW my original offer still stands.

I will donate:
$50 to a charity if Bush loses, and another
$50 to a charity if Bush doesn't take 55% of the popular vote (actually, I think it will be closer to 60%, but I'm hedging my bet I'll be surprised if he gets your predicted margin tho.

[OperaTenor]

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[Nicole Marie]

Forget leading the country... Bush doesn't even know how our government works or what the hell he is talking about:

"THEY WANT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTROLLING SOCIAL SECURITY LIKE IT'S SOME KIND OF FEDERAL PROGRAM."
ST. CHARLES, MO., NOV. 2, 2000

"THE LEGISLATURE'S JOB IS TO WRITE LAW. IT'S THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH'S JOB TO INTERPRET LAW."
AUSTIN, TEXAS, NOV. 22, 2000

"I DO REMAIN CONFIDENT IN LINDA. SHE'LL MAKE A FINE LABOR SECRETARY. FROM WHAT I'VE READ IN THE PRESS ACCOUNTS, SHE'S PERFECTLY QUALIFIED."-AUSTIN, TEXAS, JAN. 8, 2001

"IT'S CLEARLY A BUDGET. IT'S GOT A LOT OF NUMBERS IN IT."
-REUTERS, MAY 5, 2000

"IT'S EVOLUTIONARY, GOING FROM GOVERNOR TO PRESIDENT, AND THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT STEP, TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR YOURSELF ON THE BALLOT, AND I'LL BE ABLE TO DO SO NEXT FALL, I HOPE."
-INTERVIEW WITH THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, MARCH 8, 2000

"RARELY IS THE QUESTION ASKED: IS OUR CHILDREN LEARNING?"
-FLORENCE, S.C., JAN. 11, 2000

"I SUSPECT THAT HAD MY DAD NOT BEEN PRESIDENT, HE'D BE ASKING THE SAME QUESTIONS: HOW'D YOUR MEETING GO WITH SO-AND-SO? … HOW DID YOU FEEL WHEN YOU STOOD UP IN FRONT OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS-STATE OF THE BUDGET ADDRESS, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT." -IN AN INTERVIEW WITH THE WASHINGTON POST, MARCH 9, 2001

Or my personal favorite from yesterday...

"Too many OBGYN's aren't able to practice their love of women across this country."

[Marye]

"Too many OBGYN's aren't able to practice their love of women across this country."

I could not believe I heard this one right ... :confused:

[Marye]

From his memoirs, "A World Transformed," written five years ago, George Bush, Sr. wrote the following to explain why he didn't go after Saddam Hussein at the end of the Gulf War.

"Trying to eliminate Saddam...would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible.... We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq....There was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had been consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the
invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land."

:eek:

[OperaTenor]

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[Marye]

Well I was gobsmacked myself! Sorry Piq....

[RC]

gobsmacked

perfect

[OperaTenor]

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[RC]

Quick!! Administer the Altoid!!