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On a personal level, I would not want to serve with anyone who didn't want to be there."SCARING UP DEM VOTES
College students are receiving alarmist e-mails warning them they may be drafted if President Bush wins re-election. The text reads as follows:
Mandatory draft for boys and girls (ages 18-26) starting June 15, 2005
There is pending legislation in the House and Senate, S89 and HR 163,to reinstate mandatory draft for boys and girls (ages18-26) starting June 15, 2005. This plan includes women in the draft, eliminates higher education as a shelter, and makes it difficult to cross into Canada.
The Bush administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections. The Bush administration plans to begin mandatory draft in the spring of 2005, just after the 2004 presidential election.
· The Congress has added $28 million to the 2004 selective service system budget to prepare for this military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005.
· Bush has ordered the Selective Service to report to him by March 31, 2005 on their readiness to implement the draft by June 2005
· The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide.
Please act on this:
· Tell everyone you know - parents, aunts and uncles, grandparents,
godparents, friends, teachers
· Call and write to your U.S. Senator and your U.S. Representatives and ask them why they aren't telling their constituents about these bills.
A mother whose daughter received the e-mail at the University of Arizona told me her "daughter said a lot of students are getting the same email and they are believing it and saying they won't vote for Bush because of it."
Betsy adds that she saw an MTV Choose or Lose ad using similar scare tactics about the draft. FReepers noticed the same ad. Max Cleland and Howard Dean are also trying to spook the kids to by playing the draft card.
No mention by these fear-mongerers that it has been Democrat Charlie Rangel pushing the draft and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld opposing it. Wouldn't want to spoil the pre-Halloween frightfest with the truth. Here's a reality check from military.com. Excerpt:
"A draft? It's just not going to happen," said Rep. John Kline, R-Minn., a member of the House Armed Services Committee.
Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, the senior Democrat on the Senate Armed Services personnel subcommittee, agreed: "There is very little support in Congress for reinstating the draft."
Perhaps those comments will help steady the nerves of many Americans apparently rattled by an e-mail that is circulating nationwide. It says that legislation is pending in Congress that would reinstitute the draft for the first time since 1973, starting as early as next spring. It also says that the administration is "quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections."
There is a kernel of truth to the allegation -- there is a bill pending that would restart the draft. But the Bush administration opposes it, as do Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry and the leadership of both the Democratic and Republican parties in Congress. Everyone remotely in a position to know is quite sure that the bill is going nowhere.
"I don't know anyone in the executive branch of the government who believes that it would be appropriate or necessary to reinstitute the draft," Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in April.
The bill's primary sponsor is Rep. Charles Rangel, a liberal Democrat from New York who represents Harlem. Even he admitted that his bill won't pass. He said he introduced it to get people to discuss who is doing the fighting in Iraq...
So tell the kids to wipe their noses and stop worrying about getting drafted.
Not. Gonna. Happen.
Yeah, you Libertarians always stick together.Originally posted by RC:
I'm with barfle...(again?!)
"We all know that the biggest portion of the military is served by poor folk, minority in many cases and that when the bullets fly, they are the ones on the line. I can't imagine this bill would change anything. The rich & powerful will always find the advantage."
Secretary of State Colin Powell, in his 1995 autobiography, ``My American Journey,'' called draft policies in place during the Vietnam War that allowed some potential draftees to defer service ``an anti-democratic disgrace.''
Powell, the former chairman of the U.S. military's Joint Chiefs of Staff and a Vietnam veteran, said in an interview with ABC News Sept. 12 that he doesn't expect a resumption of the draft.
``But if we should, for some reason, in the future that I can't anticipate, ever have to go to a conscription-type force again,'' Powell said, ``it should be one that is universal and all are subject to that kind of service for the nation.''
Oh, and the US Army:Rangel introduced legislation last year that called for a return to the draft, saying that minorities make up a disproportionate share of the armed services. He also said a draft would diminish support for going to war if more people felt their own children or family members would have to fight.
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES ARMY TRAINING AND DOCTRINE COMMAND
102 MCNAIR DRIVE
FORT MONROE, VIRGINIA 23651-1047
7 April 2003
MEMORANDUM FOR SEE DISTRIBUTION
SUBJECT: Commander’s Statement on the Representation of Minorities and Women at
Grades GS 13-15
1. Continued review of TRADOC GS 13-15 positions indicates that progress is being made in promoting women and minorities into higher-graded positions despite the impact of various Department of Defense downsizing and outsourcing initiatives.
2. White females and several minority groups within TRADOC are still underrepresented at these higher-grade positions. In order to ensure that the underrepresentation of women and minorities is not the result of discriminatory personnel practices, supervisors and managers will carefully review recruitment efforts, interview procedures, and the selection process to ensure all employees are afforded an equal opportunity to compete for jobs, promotions, and training opportunities. Management will ensure all employees are aware of and afforded equal opportunity to participate in career enhancing assignments and training.
3. I encourage all employees to consider attending long-term training, actively seek developmental assignments when possible, and ensure that their personnel records and resumes reflect the most current information. Competition for positions and promotions will continue to be keen as The Army transforms into a leaner and more efficient force. Preparation and training are the keys to advancement into the higher grades in tomorrow’s work force.
4. TRADOC--Where Tomorrow's Victories Begin!
KEVIN P. BYRNES
General, U.S. Army
U.S. Army Combined Arms Center
U.S. Army Combined Arms Support Center
U.S. Army Accessions Command
Commandants, TRADOC Service Schools
U.S. Army Nuclear and Chemical Agency
U.S. Army Aeronautical Services Agency
U.S. Army TRADOC Analysis Center
Deputy Chiefs of General and Chiefs of Special Staff Offices, HQ TRADOC
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