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” In FY 2002, African Americans were equitably represented in the military overall. In the enlisted force, African Americans were slightly overrepresented among NPS active duty accessions (16 percent) relative to the 18-24 year-old civilian population (14 percent). Hispanics, on the other hand, continued to be underrepresented, with 11 percent among NPS accessions compared with nearly 16 percent for comparable civilians. FY 2002 representation of “Other” minority enlisted accessions (Native Americans, Asians, and Pacific Islanders) stood at approximately 6 percent, slightly more than in the civilian population (5 percent). Though there was a significant decrease in African American enlistment during FY 2002 African Americans are still overrepresented when compared to their civilian cohorts. Higher retention rates among African Americans continue to boost their representation among Active Components enlisted members – 22 percent in contrast to the 13 percent of African Americans among 18-44 year-old civilians in the workforce. With 10 percent of active duty enlisted members counted as Hispanic, this ethnic minority remained underrepresented relative to the comparable civilian population (14 percent).”
"Are soldiers the products of particularly poor families? According to 1999 Defense Department statistics, the enlisted ranks come from neither the top nor the bottom of society, but from working and middle class backgrounds. Very few enlistees appear to be the scions of the wealthy. (Some officers are from rich families, however; but a larger proportion of officers are the sons and daughters of officers.)
White enlistees tend to come from households somewhat lower in income than the general white population: $33,500 per year versus $44,400 for the average white, according to 1999 Defense Department statistics. Strikingly, black enlistees come from households above the black national average: $32,000 vs. $27,900.”
Yes, this is refering to the draft but in reference to my earlier post - who gets stuck on th firing line when the bullets start flying.Powell again: "I particularly condemn the way our political leaders supplied the manpower for that war. The policies — determining who would be drafted and who would be deferred, who would serve and who would escape, who would die and who would live — were an anti-democratic disgrace. I am angry that so many sons of the powerful and well placed and so many professional athletes (who were probably healthier than any of us) managed to wangle slots in Reserve and National Guard units. Of the many tragedies of Vietnam, this raw class discrimination strikes me as the most damaging to the ideal that all Americans are created equal and owe equal allegiance to our country."
Nicole,Haggis, my dad was a recruiter for years. I've seen the memos and books from classes he attended that taught who and how to target. You don't target the kid driving the BMW, you go after the kid that needs money and drives the Pinto. You target the lower class sections of town, the poorer high schools, the minority neighborhoods. They need money for college and a way out. You'll never meet your recruiting levels if you try to target the rich kids, they have money for college, but a poor minority kid...
(c) EARLY TERMINATION- The period of national service for a person under this Act shall be terminated before the end of such period under the following circumstances:...4) Such other grounds as the President may establish
b) FORM OF NATIONAL SERVICE- National service under this Act shall be performed either--...2) in a civilian capacity that, as determined by the President
(d) SELECTION FOR MILITARY SERVICE- Based upon the needs of the uniformed services, the President shall--... (2) select the individuals among those persons who are to be inducted for military service under this Act.
See what I mean about it never being unbiased and fair? How is this supposed to be better?e) CIVILIAN SERVICE- Persons covered by subsection (a) who are not selected for military service under subsection (d) shall perform their national service obligation under this Act in a civilian capacity pursuant to subsection (b)(2).
The guys at the end of that article voluntarily joined the military, swore the oath, took the money. Then decided that they wouldn't go fight in specific wars - not war in general, mind you, individual specific wars. Because they had no personal beef with the opponents in that specific war.Originally posted by Serenity:
Here is an article written in July about the need to be brave and say "no" to military conscription and war.
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