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it's become a common knowledge here. these are figures from a few years back taken about CO from the Federation for American Immigrant Reform. i can't imagine what it's like now.Originally posted by OperaTenor:
When it comes to the "gotta hire illegals because no one else is willing to do that kind of work for that kind of money" argument, I thought the old migrant farm worker program worked just fine - I wonder what happened to it?
Actually, NPR did discuss that Haggis. They do not issue full text on their website, you have to listen to it. (It is right their on the link if you're interested).Originally posted by Haggis:
Well, considering NPR’s liberal bias you have to ask yourself one questions. Are all immigrants the same? And, of course, the answer is no.
I'm more interested in what's not being said. By law, many of the immigrants eligible for the bracelets are required to be detained in local lock-ups indefinitely (a legacy of the Clinton era Congress) while their hearings can drag on for years.
So, if the bracelets are in lieu of being locked up (which I suspect is the case), I suspect the bracelet would be preferably to being locked up, but I might be wrong.
How? I can't speak for the Canadian border, but down here, if you take a drive in the San Diego county backroads along the border, the countryside is crawling with INS agents. Nevertheless, illegals continue to swarm across the border. "Strengthening" the border is an exercise in diminishing returns. As long as there is opportunity, people will do whatever it takes to pursue it, and I don't think they can be faulted for trying to better their lives.Originally posted by TrumpetMaster:
Money should be spent on improving our borders and keeping the illegals out.
This is a kind of chicken and egg philosophy, I guess. Who is more responsible, the impoverished, ambitious illegal who is trying his or her best to support their family, and who may be ignorant of the legalities, or the employer, who almost certainly is aware of the law, is not only knowingly cheating his employees by underpaying them, but is knowingly cheating the government(and us) by not paying taxes on them?Also originally posted by that Howard guy:
The thing that sux is our tax money winds up supporting the illegals who take jobs off the books, don't pay taxes into the system.... etc...
Not bloody likely!Also originally fantasized by Howard:
That's the end of my editorial!
don't think i can agree with you 100% on that one OT. they DO come here for schooling... because it's either reduced or FREE (there's my favorite 4 letter word again).Originally posted by OperaTenor:
I've heard scores of accounts as to why illegals come here. They come for the jobs, not education or medical benefits. If we take away the jobs, we take away their reason for coming, they won't come anymore.
Just like in the movie "The Super".Originally posted by Serenity:
The penalty for hiring "illegal immigrants" should be to have the employer spend an equal amount of time exiled in the country of the person he hired. Do an "equal time swap" for each one hired.
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