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I'm pleased to hear that he's having a positive effect.Originally posted by Schmeelkie:
the more time I spend with my husband, the more I inch closer to the libertarians - just think that there are some things the govenment does well, and others that they should just keep their big nose out of...
I realize I'm in a minority here, but my philosophy is that a vote for a candidate is an endorsement of that candidate. If I think he's evil, whether second worst or not, I refuse to vote for him. That explains why my candidates often run sixth or fourteenth.Originally posted by Schmeelkie:
I always feel like I'm picking the esser of two evils...
I agree that Saddam was a brutal SOB. However, there were freedoms under his regime that a clerical regime would not allow, like freedom of religion. Christians were allowed to practice their faith, and one even held a high position in the Iraqi government.Originally posted by Schmeelkie:
Here's an example of my political wishy-washyness: I'm really glad we went to Iraq and got out Saddam - not necessarily for the reasons the government focused on, but he was murdering his citizens, living like a king while his people were in poverty, had an 'election' where he was the only choice and people figured they'd get shot if they didn't vote for him, was generally evil, and would have gotten more WMD if given the chance. (He had already used chemical weapons on the Kurds in the '90's). Also, diplomacy was never going to work. But, I'm not sure we went about the invasion in the right way. We should have worked harder to make this a joint venture with more of the world - should have put out olive branches to Muslim nations and asked for their help.
Again, the "threat" of Saddam was all internal, not to us and not to his neighbors. Even Kuwait did not support our invasion.Originally posted by Schmeelkie:
The world really just couldn't put up with Saddam anymore - unlike Castro, who's annoying, but not really a big threat. So, do the ends justify the means...I don't know...
I know far too well that withdrawal of our troops would simply leave Iraq in a bigger mess than it is already, and it's a big mess. But I also feel it's important for the administration to admit that we CAUSED the mess.Originally posted by Schmeelkie:
And GWB should just admit what most historians know - making war is easy, it's making the peace that's hard. And the whiners who want us out should realize that this is not an easy process - heck we STILL have bases in Germany...
Its pretty easy to trace the invasion back to the US. You think they are less nervous because we iinvaded?originally posted by schmeelkie
Piq - it <assassination> would have been a great option, if it couldn't be traced back to the US government. Not that other countries aren't nervous about us already, but if we openly started assasinating leaders we didn't like (even if everyone else hates them too), it would set a bad precedent and half the world would object. So, it would have been more effective than the invasion, but MUCH harder to carry out
Alas, if I only made sense to me anywhere near that often...Originally posted by Marye:
Barfle... you always make perfect sense to me....
Nice one....From: Shos
To end on a lighter note, the Bush look-alike on Jay Leno's show was commenting on Cheney's bypass as minor surgery. Leno asked if it isn't more serious. Look-alike said "No. For a Republican the heart is not a vital organ
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