what do we make fun of ?

[piqaboo]

or carrying back packs, or shopping bags.

[barfle]

Originally posted by Haggis@wk:
I’d also start feeling nervous around dark complected individuals wearing bulky clothes on the subway……..

Avoid the Washington, DC metro in the winter, then. Unfortunately, it's how I get to and from work.

[OperaTenor]

I agree with Piq, collective maniacal insecurity. TO me, it is indicative of just how divergent Islamic culture is from just about everyone else.

I have to say, to this day, I'm disappointed in "mainstream" Muslims. They've taken no action whatsoever against the violent, lunatic fundamentalists in their midst, and their condemnations have been weak and sporadic at best. We in the West do a much better job of keeping our wackos in check, and ours at least aren't killing people on a daily basis.

Except the ones in the White House, of course.....

:p

[Serenity]

I wonder about their sense of humor. What do they find funny? Are there any good muslim joke sites ou there? Stay tuned.....

[Serenity]

A man is taking a walk in New York's Central Park when he sees a little girl being attacked by a pit bull dog. He runs over, starts fighting with the dog and succeeds in killing the dog and saving the girl's life. A policeman who was watching the scene walks over and says: "You are a hero, tomorrow you can read in all the newspapers:

"Brave New Yorker saves the life of little girl" The man says: - "But I am not a New Yorker!"

"Oh ,then the newspapers will say: 'Brave American saves life of little girl'" –the policeman answers.
"But I am not an American!" – says the man.

"Oh, what are you then? "
The man says: - "I am a Saudi!"

The next day the newspapers read: "Islamic extremist kills innocent American dog.

[ratsnake]

Originally posted by Selma in Sandy Eggo:
And I still reserve the right to make fun of anyone and everyone who commits public silliness. If you haven't got a sense of humor, you won't enjoy the crowd around here.

Dear Selma you have a point, it s not your fault that I‘m a writing freak and recently been takin some courses on journalistic! Yes of course I can write more simply so that my points aren‘t gonna be discovered about a solar week after! Now about your post above I have a little objection, I do make fun of people‘s silliness whenever saw one whether one likes it or not but I don’t go shout it to their face when they‘re a majority of hardliners and to some extend-right or wrong-extremely religious buncha people who don’t even dare to do the same thing ( mocking the religious figures of the opposite culture, Christians mostly) in their newspapers and media why because they don’t wanna be cursed by the lord why cause they still believe in a chain of holiness who came down to earth and was ended with their religion. You might not really believe what I say and I don’t insist you to, cause you may never see that point unless you lived there for a while. I mean I don’t see anything wrong with people being religious to that point it doesn’t turn into offending fanaticism who deprives my privacy in any public manner. I also see no reason for showing off about the kind of freedom I might be having, both religion- and political-wise, so that the poor narrow minded ones down there know what else can we do that they cannot keep up with. So short-written and clear-polished off the round table: nope think you can‘t go tell a buncha Buddhists who are wearin a red-yellow robe and take an ice-cold shower in the Tibetan mountains that you definitely think its so stupid the way the look and act if you think so. Especially if they‘re really standing in numbers around you, numbers bigger than you and your buddy in the walk-through of the temple. I mean when you really don’t have to??

[Selma in Sandy Eggo]

Back to the "reasonable response" and "overreaction" points, guys.

Some imam refers to my country as "The Great Satan". We roll our eyes, go "tsk", and think "What a maroon."

Some Danish newspaper publishes a tacky cartoon, in Denmark. There are riots and arson in Lebanon, Pakistan, and Indonesia.

Are the Moslem countries over-reacting, or are the rest of us under-reacting? Maybe we should put Pat Robertson, or some other nut job, in charge of foreign relations? :Yikes: That's a dreadful thought!

The point being that the civilized individuals behave in a civilized fashion: barbarians do not. Those rioters are not behaving in a civilized fashion. Draw your own conclusions. And don't presume to lecture me about prudence and polite behavior.

[OperaTenor]

Yes, given all the violence and fury displayed by so many Muslims over things so very trivial in ANY context, I'm starting to believe Islam is a religion built on total insecurity, and its followers have so little self esteem they see life everywhere as worthless.

That's one thing(among others, but don't tell him - it'll get to his head) I've always agreed with Haggis about: There is such a vast difference in perspective between Muslims and the rest of the world in general that there will never be peace and freedom as we see it in the Middle East. Even if we are to believe the current crop of lies from the GWB administration for why we invaded Iraq, it makes even less sense because it's such a fultile cause.

Jesus taught to turn the other cheek. Admittedly, I'm ignorant of the Koran, but, given the behavior of so many Muslims, I get the impression Muhammed taught to cut off the offensive hand, much less offer up another cheek.

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[Shapley]

I found the recent escape of the U.S.S. Cole bombers interesting: We are taught that Mosques are sacred and should not be violated, yet they tunnelled into a Mosque, into the women's section, in fact, in order to effect their escape. This would seem to violate the sanctity of the Mosque, IMHO, and make the escapees infidels in the eyes of those who hold the sanctity of the Mosque to be valid. There seems to be no uproar regarding this infraction. Am I missing something here?

V/R
Shapley

[piqaboo]

That's an interesting point Shap.
Perhaps our news stories on the subject should have been headlined "Mosque profained, women's sanctity violated". And that should have been the emphasis of the western stories on it. That might have helped get that concept thru to those who will be offering them succor.

[DavidS]

Well I don't know.
But can we back to basics and talk about the sanctity of LIFE?

[BigJon@Work]

Originally posted by OperaTenor:
Yes, given all the violence and fury displayed by so many Muslims over things so very trivial in ANY context, I'm starting to believe Islam is a religion built on total insecurity, and its followers have so little self esteem they see life everywhere as worthless.

From this outsider's perspective, you hit the nail on the head.

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[Haggis@wk]

The caving in of the American media to the howling Muslim mobs, as Churchill said in another, not entirely unrelated context,

"...has consequences which will travel far with us along our road."

I guess the media was more comfortable publishing photos from Abu Ghraib, after all they could be relatively secure in the belief that a mob wasn't going to hunt down the reporters or burn the NYT building down.

The MSM is afraid, more afraid of Muslims on another continent than they are "dedicated" to publishing all the elements of the story. How can they ever expect to be taken seriously again when they fold so easily as they have here?

Cowards, despicable, craven cowards who have shown their true colors.

[Selma in Sandy Eggo]

New subject at which to snicker: military theoreticians.

My job's been reclassified and it's a good thing, but I'm having to take actual logistics courses. Opportunities for amusement and mockery abound: it's a target rich environment.

Phrases I have to pass on:

Agile Sustainment. I won't bother you with the official definition. It makes my head spin. Let's just say that it would've impressed Merlin for sheer magical sweep. I'm sure it's an incantation of some sort.

Austere and Unimproved Forward Operational Environment. Best I can tell, this means a godforsaken nasty desert with no usable roads.

Who else has jargon gems to contribute?

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[OperaTenor]

Originally posted by Haggis@wk:
Cowards, despicable, craven cowards who have shown their true colors.

Can we add "lazy sensationalists" to the above as well?

[Haggis@wk]

Gore sells out the U.S.

” Former Vice President Al Gore told a mainly Saudi audience on Sunday that the U.S. government committed "terrible abuses" against Arabs after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, and that most Americans did not support such treatment.

Gore said Arabs had been "indiscriminately rounded up" and held in "unforgivable" conditions. The former vice president said the Bush administration was playing into al-Qaida's hands by routinely blocking Saudi visa applications.

"The thoughtless way in which visas are now handled, that is a mistake," Gore said during the Jiddah Economic Forum. "The worst thing we can possibly do is to cut off the channels of friendship and mutual understanding between Saudi Arabia and the United States."

This man almost became president of the United States?

I apparently miss the news that we held mass roundups of Arabs. Does anyone remember, exactly when that happened? And what exactly were the "unforgivable" conditions of which Gore speaks? As for visas when exactly did Saudis (or any foreigners for that matter) have a right to enter the United States at whim without any consideration of security?

When did the Left change from “loyal opposition” to supporting the religious terrorism of Islam?

I can’t imagine what it must feel liked being a centrist Democrat today being represented by people like this who hate the president so much they will suck up to those who finance and support much of the terrorism that goes on in the world today. Because of his perceived stature he is portraying his actions as the opinion of half our country.

This man almost became president of the United States?

[Serenity]

"Shhh! Be vewy, vewy quiet. I'm hunting wabbits!"
- VP

[OperaTenor]

Hey Haggis, what about the comments from the guy from Chevron in the same article? He was saying GWB was full of it in the State of the Union address.

As for Gore, there's a mountain of hard evidence backing up his statements, and I for one won't fault him for calling a spade a spade.

Jim "See, I read the articles you post even if you don't read mine. :p " B.

[Shapley]

OT,

I seem to recall you accusing President Bush of 'being in the Saudi's pockets', and of taking a hard line against Iraq while ignoring the fact that most of the hijackers were from Saudi. Now you agree that with Gore that we're too hard on the Saudi's.

I'm sure your not trying to have it both ways, but it sure look like from here.

V/R
Shapley

[OperaTenor]

Originally posted by Shapley:
OT,

I seem to recall you accusing President Bush of 'being in the Saudi's pockets', and of taking a hard line against Iraq while ignoring the fact that most of the hijackers were from Saudi. Now you agree that with Gore that we're too hard on the Saudi's.

I'm sure your not trying to have it both ways, but it sure look like from here.

V/R
Shapley

Mmm, no. Unless you take a little creative license with context, perhaps....