Haggis wrote:From 1990-1995 and 1995-2000, the growth of carbon dioxide emissions in the U.S. was significantly greater than in the E.U. Since 2000, however, this has changed, as an illustrated table in the artibelow.
Consider also that from 2000-2004, the U.S. economy also grew at a much faster rate than did that of Europe, as did the U.S. population
Haggis, I am completely not getting how you think this supports capitalizm as protective of the environment.
1) rate of emissions growth higher in US 10 of the 14 years cited
2) total emissions not cited. I note Eu actually decreased emissions for one of the 5 year periods cited. I note the US has not achieved that in any of the periods cited.
Your point is?
My point is: if limits are set, capitalism always finds a way to improve efficiency and increase profits within those limits, usually to the overall benefit of the industry. Necessity is a mother, and all that.
Nor am I proposing Eu as a model for the US, politically, economically or otherwise.
I do propose that we look at suggested regulation from a larger perspective. If it is proposed we reduce emissions, lets consider the possible benefits and costs:
Cost - to the targeted industry to meet standards; possibly, but probably not to the consumer. To the employees of the industry who may be let go, permanently , at first to reduce immediate costs and later because of long term improvements in efficiency.
Benefit - to the environment? To the health of local citizens? Reduced maintenence costs on local roadways, bridges, buildings (less local dirt in the air, less acid rain, other)? Etc.
If any of these are thought to be affected, they all have $ costs associated with them.
I do wonder about regulating industry internationally...
we dont allow certain wastes to occur in our country, so our industrys build plants outside the US and emit those wastes...
If we tell our corporations they cant do that, then O-US companies do it and sell to us. And the only way to combat that is tariffs, or publicity.
So, do we not do "the right thing" and keep our part of the landscape clean? This is not a simple question. Im quite certain tho Im about to get a simple "nanny state" "dont tell me what to do" answer to it from at least two posters on this board.
Altoid - curiously strong.