Illegal Immigration

[dai bread]

There has to be a catch in that excellent idea, Serenity. I just can't think what it is.

[Shapley]

VIrtual Fence Scrapped

It's time to reconsider my proposal:

[piqaboo]

Serenity, I like that idea, oddly enough.
"Uninjured" being the key word here.
And using tx credits instead of a cash bounty helps ensure the eager hunters dont make this a full time job, but maintain some other form of employment. Otherwise we'd get into the selfdependent spiral with people making it easy to cross the border, so they could make the 'catch'.

"without rights" - might need to define that as "without recourse to welfare, ...".
I still hold certain rights to be inalienable whether one is a citizen or not.

[Serenity]

You are correct about the inalienable rights; your suggestion makes the idea better. Now, if we could just push it in the direction of policy makers and then make a reality show about it or push it through You Tube, we could get the Economy a little push

[Selma in Sandy Eggo]

I still think my little card table set up at entry points is a better idea. Sell 'em entry cards, make 'em pay taxes, quietly divert the ones we really really don't want in the country to a convenient compost heap...

[piqaboo]

No reason we cant have both.
Those that play by the rules come via the little tables.
Those that try to skip the little tables are up for the 'capture' game, with subsequent tax credit reward to the capturers.

Anyone who is captured can be sent to pull iceplant & cut it into little compostable pieces at my place prior to deportation.

[Haggis@wk]

Anew immigration scam, courtesy of our wonderful federal legislators and — who else? — George W. Bush.

The Consolidated Natural Resources Act 2008, which was signed into law by President Bush in May, has become a springboard for Chinese nationals to immigrate to the United States, reports the World Journal. The Act enables the United States to take over the labor and immigration system of Saipan, the largest island and capital of the U.S. Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI). Lawyers say that employers in Saipan are allowed to apply for U.S. work visas for immigrant workers under the new act, and that babies born in Saipan automatically be U.S. citizens.

Many Chinese are moving to take advantage of the act, the World Journal reports. Immigration services in big cities like Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and Wuhan have started programs like “Labor Export to Saipan” and “Deliver an American Baby in Saipan.” Expecting mothers pay anywhere from 140,000 to 240,000 RMB (about 20,000 to 35,000 USD) for the service that will allow them to deliver their babies in Saipan.

Here’s some more background, apparently its been going on for some time.

Sigh. They just don’t get it, either side of the aisle

[Haggis@wk]

From A recent report from the Ombudsman of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), the agency that deals with green cards, citizenship, and the like is the revelation that fingerprints taken from immigration applicants are automatically deleted after 15 months.

This is the agency that would supposedly screen out bad guys among applicants for any amnesty.

[Haggis@wk]

Police: Mexican Cartels Give OK to Hit U.S. Targets

EL PASO, Texas — Security is being heightened along the southern U.S. border because of a threat that warring Mexican cartels may send hit men into the United States, authorities said Monday.

Law enforcement officials would not discuss specific security measures being taken at the ports of entry, along the border or in the city of El Paso, Texas.

"We received credible information that drug cartels in Mexico have given permission to hit targets on the U.S. side of the border," El Paso police spokesman Officer Chris Mears said.
Authorities learned of the threat last week.

This is being taken very seriously and has for over a year. Last year the local police raided a house near DFW airport where a truck loaded with drugs had been followed from the border. The house was empty; apparently the occupants were tipped off and left.

When the cops went in the house they were stunned at the preparation the occupants had made. Multiple assault weapons were found as well as fully automatic squad assault weapons and thousands of rounds of ammo. The occupant were identified as being former members of Mexico’s special forces calling themselves Zetas.

[jamiebk]

Police: Mexican Cartels Give OK to Hit U.S. Targets

EL PASO, Texas — Security is being heightened along the southern U.S. border because of a threat that warring Mexican cartels may send hit men into the United States, authorities said Monday.

Law enforcement officials would not discuss specific security measures being taken at the ports of entry, along the border or in the city of El Paso, Texas.

"We received credible information that drug cartels in Mexico have given permission to hit targets on the U.S. side of the border," El Paso police spokesman Officer Chris Mears said.
Authorities learned of the threat last week.

This is being taken very seriously and has for over a year. Last year the local police raided a house near DFW airport where a truck loaded with drugs had been followed from the border. The house was empty; apparently the occupants were tipped off and left.

When the cops went in the house they were stunned at the preparation the occupants had made. Multiple assault weapons were found as well as fully automatic squad assault weapons and thousands of rounds of ammo. The occupant were identified as being former members of Mexico’s special forces calling themselves Zetas.

And people wonder why we are building a fence???? sheesh

[Shapley]

My idea is looking better and better all the time....

[Haggis@wk]

Obama's aunt is an illegal immigrant. You couldn't make this stuff up.

I realize that you can't choose your relatives but I recall that all the presidents who had problem relatives were themselves problems; Clinton an Carter come to mind immediately.

[Serenity]

These are the real illegal immigrants!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJAfbiRX7s

[shostakovich]

Obama's aunt is an illegal immigrant. You couldn't make this stuff up.

I realize that you can't choose your relatives but I recall that all the presidents who had problem relatives were themselves problems; Clinton an Carter come to mind immediately.

Obama was surprised at the situation. He said something like "Let the law take its course", the only thing he could say, publicly. He will likely deal with his auntie's situation after the election. If he personally assists in her "legalization", a good portion of the population will suggest something like "croneyism". A lot of them had no problem with Bush avoiding military service by joining the Texas Air National Guard (and not completing that service, probably). Another good portion of the population will look at it as "family values". In either case, I don't expect "auntie" to be deported. I'm not sure that would satisfy anyone.
shos

[Haggis@wk]

A G.O.P. capitulation on immigration?

Well, the party has been wondering what to do to energize the Republican/Conservative base; just not at them.

How can these politicians be so out of touch with the U.S. electorate?

I’ve already emailed both my senators and my representative; I suggest you consider doing the same if you feel strongly about resisting an amnesty

[BigJon@Work]

A hard-nosed amnesty would probably be the best solution to our current problems. When I say hard-nosed, I mean one itsy-bitsy strike and you are out.

[Haggis@wk]

Imagine if he was playing Cowboys and Indians!

NEWTON COUNTY, Ga. — The latest case of zero-tolerance at the public schools has a 10-year-old student sadder and wiser, and facing expulsion and long-term juvenile detention. And it has his mother worried that his punishment has already been harsher than the offense demands.

Alandis' gun was a "cap gun," a toy cowboy six-shooter that his mother bought for him.

"We got it from Wal-Mart for $5.96," Tosha Ford said, "in the toy section right next to the cowboy hats. That's what he wanted because it was just like the ones he was studying for the Civil War" in his fifth-grade class at Fairview Elementary School.

Alandis was charged with possessing a weapon on school property and with terroristic acts and threats.

[jamiebk]

Imagine if he was playing Cowboys and Indians!

NEWTON COUNTY, Ga. — The latest case of zero-tolerance at the public schools has a 10-year-old student sadder and wiser, and facing expulsion and long-term juvenile detention. And it has his mother worried that his punishment has already been harsher than the offense demands.

Alandis' gun was a "cap gun," a toy cowboy six-shooter that his mother bought for him.

"We got it from Wal-Mart for $5.96," Tosha Ford said, "in the toy section right next to the cowboy hats. That's what he wanted because it was just like the ones he was studying for the Civil War" in his fifth-grade class at Fairview Elementary School.

Alandis was charged with possessing a weapon on school property and with terroristic acts and threats.

I THINK you meant to say Cowboys and Native Americans

[Haggis@wk]

I reposted in the "That's Stupid" thread. I'm never quite so stupid as when I'm being clever....

[jamiebk]

I wish someone could explain to me how this (a cap gun) can be considered a weapon. On this basis alone the arguement fails. Weapons cannot and should not be taken to school. The cap gun is not a weapon. I wish someone would sue their asses right out of their self righteous jobs.