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Shapley wrote:Almost any nation could have been 'us' if they had thrown off the shackles of oppression and allowed freedom to determine the course of their nation. Sadly, I see us voting away the freedom that has made us 'us', and I fear that the United States may soon be another has-been country whose people's appetite for the fruit of the labours of others swallowed up the promise she once had.
piqaboo wrote:I disagree. While many countries could, not all. The US has size, huge natural resources, and people somewhat pre-selected for risktaking characteristics. China has the size and probably the natural resources. Siberia definitely does, if it ever thaws. The Netherlands? Not so much, tho they were quite the dominant political power for a while there, by using what they had (shipping, location).
Mahlersfifth wrote:Speaking of old white men, what happened to "the internet is a series of tubes" senator from Alaska, Ted Stevens? Did he win his senate seat? What about Al Franken? Did he lose?
analog wrote:Where the conscious goes the subconscious must follow.
Part of me wants to post a link to Leonard Cohen's "The Future" but I am forcibly switching into optimist mode instead.
Obama speaks like an intelligent man, we will soon find out whether he's genuine.
Who frightens me is Pelosi, Ayers and their ilk. She is already crowing about the victory and you can see her eyes gleam at the thought of power. Those are the dangerous ones, the people who want power but are too weak to make it to the top.... I don't trust them with the power in the patriot act. I pray Obama discards them now that they've got him elected, for that would tell me he is a practical if sometimes ruthless man who plays fools as necessary.
A touch of ruthlessness is not surprising, he was after all abandoned by a father, a stepfather and a mother before he was ten. Let us pray he has forgiven them.
Let us also pray he is a kind person at heart, and i am optimistic there - he seems to have a decent wife and kids and he sounds compassionate.
And Bill Oreilly, with the instincts of an old schoolteacher, said he's a good man.In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future. The learned usually find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer exists.
Congratulations to all..
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Mahlersfifth wrote:Ah well.. will Reid boot Lieberman AND Stevens out of the senate?
Haggis@wk wrote:Can he legally retain his seat and be in jail? again, who knows?
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