jamiebk wrote:Mr Bush has had 8 years to earn that treatment.
The treatment started with the 'stolen' 2000 election, and has been relentless since, with the possible exception of a brief period following the incidents of 9/11/01.
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jamiebk wrote:Mr Bush has had 8 years to earn that treatment.
piqaboo wrote:Why does anyone expect the Gov of Ill to do the right thing or even the dignified thing?
If he were that kind of person, he wouldnt be in this position now.
Just enjoy watching it play out, and enjoy the righteous indignation.

piqaboo wrote:Why does anyone expect the Gov of Ill to do the right thing or even the dignified thing?
If he were that kind of person, he wouldnt be in this position now.
Just enjoy watching it play out, and enjoy the righteous indignation.
Department of Job and Family Services Director Helen Jones-Kelley said in a statement accompanying her resignation that she won't allow her reputation to be disparaged and that she is concerned for her family's safety.
"This decision comes after a time of pause, in which I realize that I continue to be used as a political postscript, providing a distraction from urgent state priorities," she said in her statement.
She could not be reached for additional comment Wednesday night.
Investigators could not confirm that Jones-Kelley accessed the records of Wurzelbacher with political gain in mind. His report did indicate that she had used her personal Blackberry to send the Obama fundraising requests — though it was synched up to state equipment.
jamiebk wrote:So...What crime has been committed here?

jamiebk wrote:So...What crime has been committed here?
Shapley wrote:There is a lot of that sort of thing that goes on. Personal data is 'leaked' about people who ruffle feathers. I had a small dose of this when I was in city politics. My stepson's financial data somehow found its' way from the bank into the hands of a political operative who I had ticked off over a certain political issue. I didn't bank in town myself, so my own data was not accessed. I'm sure some bank employee was just 'curious' as to his financial status after seeing my name in the papers, and I'm sure that data just happened to be mentioned in casual conversation with the political operative (just as I'm sure pigs were on the wing at the time).
Having a privacy policy in place help to prevent this. By restricting access of data by the 'curious', we minimize the probability that such data will accidentally find its' way into the hands of those who have no need to know it.
jamiebk wrote:If it was a HIPAA violation, the person could go to jail for up to 10 years and/or face fines of up to $250,000.
Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT): Question: Which member of the U.S. Senate tookthe most campaign money from corrupt institutions Fannie Mae and FreddieMac? Answer: Chris Dodd, Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee. Given this fact there is little reason to wonder why Senator Dodd blocked reform proposals for Fannie and Freddie, calling them “ill advised.” Dodd’s willingness to protect Fannie and Freddie would alone merit a spot on the”ten most corrupt list,” but there is much more. Dodd was also nabbed for accepting preferential treatment and loan terms from Countrywide Financial.The Connecticut Senator admitted earlier this year that he was told in 2003 when he refinanced two properties that he was being placed in Countrywide’s”VIP Program,” but said he believed this was simply a courtesy that had nothing to do with his position in the U.S. Senate. This is either a blatant lie or horribly naïve for a man who has served in the Senate for more than 25 years and currently chairs the Senate Banking Committee that regulates the mortgage industry. We’re not buying it.
“Really, it’s fascinating how one crooked state pol can ensnare both the new presidential administration and Congress. The Obama team is lawyering up, the Senate will be sued, and the grand jury in Illinois will spend months reeling in more witnesses who, in turn, may implicate still more politicians. It’s hard to recall a single figure who has caused as much consternation and litigation.”
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi plans to re-write House rules today to ensure that the Republican minority is unable to have any influence on legislation. Pelosi’s proposals are so draconian, and will so polarize the Capitol, that any thought President-elect Obama has of bipartisan cooperation will be rendered impossible before he even takes office.
Pelosi’s rule changes -- which may be voted on today -- will reverse the fairness rules that were written around Newt Gingrich’s “Contract with America.”
Shapley wrote: Oh, and keep your powder dry...
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