holiday bowl season

[deathstalker82]

yes folks it's that time of year again. the disappointing at best BSC. i just read on espn.com that the AP has requested that their poll not be used anymore in the formula as they feel it could start to undermine the integrity of the poll. also what do you think that the best bowl game will be? personally my money is on boise st. in the liberty bowl. damn shame the best game on tv will be the liberty bowl. they will be the 2 highest ranked teams to ever play in the bowl. i go to MSU, and i am not a fan of auburn by a long shot, but i think they deserved the big game alot more than oklahoma, who only had one tough challenge in texas, and usc who really didn't play anybody this year because the pac-10 was terrible. i want to hear your question and comments sportsfans.

[OperaTenor]

This is football, right?

[GreatCarouser]

Originally posted by deathstalker82:
...i am not a fan of auburn by a long shot, but i think they deserved the big game alot more than oklahoma, who only had one tough challenge in texas, and usc who really didn't play anybody this year because the pac-10 was terrible...

While the SEC is often one of (if not the) premier conferences in college football, this was certainly not one of the conference's banner years. LSU was a major disappointment and the other perennial challenger in the West division, Arkansas, had a down year. Alabama football dominance rests dustily on a shelf in a trophy case in Tuscaloosa; a forgotten, faded memory.

What of the East division and the 'powers' there? Florida? Later, gator. Wait 'til next year. UGA? Couldn't even beat a mediocre Tennessee team when the marbles were up for grabs. Speaking of the Vols, even those fervent fans in Knoxville will tell you they got more than they expected from this year's version.
I will be very interested in seeing how well Auburn does against Va. Tech. I think Va. Tech might have run the table in a weak SEC this year.

This was a down year in the PAC 10. I think you got a little too excited over the fact that Cal went into Southern Ms. and didn't win by a passel of points. I think you use this as a basis for your PAC 10 bashing. I think you've been listening to Mack Brown a little too long, deathstalker82. His Texas team FINALLY comes within 10 points of Oklahoma and he thinks he's had a good year. Cal would demolish Texas, and they will beat Texas Tech in this year's Holiday Bowl.

Let's look at Auburn's out of conference shedule. La. Monroe, The Citadel (!) and La. Tech. put them together and what do they spell? Little Sisters of the Poor.

Let's look at USC's nonconference schedule: Va Tech (BCS bowl team) Notre Dame (bowl team) BYU (a lousy year but 5 years ago when these were scheduled BYU didn't look to be a patsy along the lines of, say, The Citadel), and Colorado State, who also had a bad year.

Might as well throw Oklahoma in as well, Bowling Green (a bowl team), Houston (ok, they're lousy), and Oregon (down year but over the past 5 years a better than average Pac 10 school).

Auburn is a great team....they've had a great year. They've done everything they've been asked to do. It's not their fault their league had a down year. It IS their fault they play a pantywaist nonconference schedule.

I remember the excuse for dropping the annual rivalry game between the Florida Gators and the UM Hurricanes my 'Gator' brothers gave me when this game was dropped from UF's schedule a couple of years after UM ceased being a punching bag, "we play in such a tough conference, we can't afford another tough game."

One of the few good things the BCS has done is make these nonconference games more important to those teams who want to challenge for the big prize. Too many La. Monroe's and The Citadels will take their toll in the final analysis.

[OperaTenor]

Hmmmmmm....

Either football or some kind of adventure computer game, I guess....

[Selma in Sandy Eggo]

OT, you're hopeless. Here, you can borrow my knitting.

[deathstalker82]

yes ot it is. you are right gc, but most teams play a weak out of conference schedule. but a great point is that you 5 undeafeated teams with one not making a bcs bowl appearence. i wish that cal would have beat usm by about 70 points. one day they will have to have a playoff system of some kind. i like the idea of adding the extra bowl game and making it the championship game, while the other four are a playoff of sorts. it may or may not work. it works from junior college up through 1-AA, so why not D1. i don't know. all that i know is that the bsc has only worked once in its tenure. i mean miami against a nebraska team that didn't even win their conference, much less make it to the conference title, playing a miami team they had no chance against. the only reason they were their is because the had the heisman trophy winner on their team. i know that this year the bowl games will probably be sub-par from they could be. i think that louisville and boise st. should be in a bigger game than the liberty bowl. it sucks for smaller conferences that beat the crap out of the big boys year in and year out, marshall, fresno st., colorado st., etc, and they don't get much respect for what they do, no big piece of the pie so to speak. one day someone will figure it out. until them they let big buisness take away from the reason that i love football, the honor of combat. two teams going for more than just money they will never really see, but for glory, saying yeah we accomplished something no other team did. that is why i love high school football.

[OperaTenor]

Originally posted by Selma in Sandy Eggo:
OT, you're hopeless. Here, you can borrow my knitting.

Thanks, it would certainly be more exciting and intellectually engaging....



"the honor of combat".....that's pretty good!




[compulsive] BTW, DS82, are you familiar with the "Shift" key? [/compulsive]

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[deathstalker82]

YES OT I AM< BUT YOU FORGET I AM A LZY COLLEGE STUDENT AND SOMETIMES I DON"T FEEL LIKE TYPING CORRECTLY> AS YOU SEE I HAVE USED THE SHIFT KEY FOR THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE>

[OperaTenor]

Caps Lock is a lot easier...

[deathstalker82]

yes OT i know. i guess that you don't watch to many sports. i wish they would put more martial arts competitions on TV.

[Serenity]

If I address you as "ot", do you feel less significant?

[Selma in Sandy Eggo]

Serenity, he's a tenor. He never feels insignificant. We love him anyway.

I am guessing, though, that the old guy and I won't be invited to the O'Tenors' Super Bowl party, with a big screen TV and the brats and brew on the patio and chips spread across the carpet. (Ed points out that we will also not be hosting such an event as the Old Guy will be exercising his vocabulary coaching his preferred team and I will be sewing, knitting, or reading in another room unless I've abandoned the house altogether.)

[OperaTenor]

Hi Serenity, only if you use Caps Lock and then hold down the Shift key.....

Selma, are you kidding?!! This O'Tenor doesn't waste his time at any super bowl party. Super bowl Sunday is the best day of the entire year to go for a motorcycle ride! The majority of the rolling roadblocks commonly referred to as cars are off the road and out of my way! Wheeeeeee!

Mrs. O'Tenor also informed that sb Sunday is an excellent day for downhill skiing(a far more worthy sport, IMNSHO), which she may take Altoid and do. I would dearly love to join them, however, I don't know if my left knee would 'splode in the process.

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[Selma in Sandy Eggo]

You and Altoid could do the bunny slope. Gently.

[OperaTenor]

Originally posted by Selma in Sandy Eggo:
You and Altoid could do the bunny slope. Gently.

That would be fine if I could be satisfied to leave it at that. Methinks the temptation to push the proverbial envelope would be too great.



Probably best to leave that theory untested.

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[Serenity]

Next college bowl season I would like to see the Victoria's Secret Peach Bowl ....

[barfle]

Ahh, skiing! You would think that someone in Southern California would be farther from good skiing than someone in Virginia, with the Blue Ridge and Appalachians so near, but so far we haven't had snow in the right places since we got here, so our only east coast skiing is still the time-out I took during a business trip to Hahtfid and a weekend at Killington (Vermont).

I'll probably watch the Super Bowl, one of two football games I see all year, the other being the Rose Bowl, which was a pretty decent game, except for UM NOT going for the 1st down at 4th and 2 late in the 4th quarter, leading by 2 points. As far as I was concerned, that gave the game away.

[Selma in Sandy Eggo]

Barfle, you're on the wrong coast. Time to come home for a vacation!

There was skiing on the Grapevine last weekend. Honest. 2 feet of snow at Gorman.

Gal in my office lives in Alpine - she brought in a box full of snow from her yard this morning, been lobbing little snowballs at us. Good snow, too. Tasty.

And snow fell in the Anza-Borrego desert last weekend, though it didn't last long.

[OperaTenor]

Originally posted by Selma in Sandy Eggo:
Gal in my office lives in Alpine - she brought in a box full of snow from her yard this morning, been lobbing little snowballs at us. Good snow, too. Tasty.

Hey Selma, you're not supposed to eat the YELLOW snow!!!

Yes, snow in Gorman. 40 miles of the Tejon pass stretch of I-5 was closed yesterday. That would be Southern California.

BTW Selma, were you awakened by the hard rain last night? We were. Supposed to be more on the way. It's starting to feel like 1993 all over again...



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[OperaTenor]

Make that, Tejon Pass is still closed, according to AP.