Steroids and Composers...Investigation?

[piqaboo]

Nicole, thanks for the link.

The point is that MLB does do testing, which at least implies they currently want to make steroids against the rules.
Which is not the same as legal.

Its legal for me to drink 15 cups of coffee in an hour. But it could get me DQ'd from Olympic marathon or crosscountry skiing because its against the rules to have that much caffeine in my system.

[Nicole Marie]

I got your point Piq. Mine is just that honestly, no one will stop it's use. Just like a race car driver wants the best car and gets the best equipment so do runners, body builders, baseball players etc. Folks want to see homeruns, see someone dead lift 800 plus and see someone run faster. To do that you build up your body. It will never stop so lets at least put it under the care of a doctor who can make sure these people will not have long term problems. The money is to good for these organizations to stop it and fans eat it up when they buy tickets to the event.
Everyone is making a buck. It really will never go away, so lets at least protect the health of the person using.

The congressional hearings will go away, tickets will still be sold and someone will still use. This will all be an afterthought in a few weeks. Congress will find something else to screw up and in the end people will still use. Let's at least make it as safe as possible.

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[OperaTenor]

My problem with it is why the devil are we paying for this investigation?!! This has no business being subsidized by tax money!!!!

[Marye]

It will never stop so lets at least put it under the care of a doctor who can make sure these people will not have long term problems .

Well, I guess the same could be said for legalising prostitution.

I rather agree OT. Why isn't baseball paying for this.

[dai bread]

That was the thinking when we legalised prostitution here.

Now we have ads in the SitsVac for prostitutes. They're not called that, of course. "Ladies, would you like to be well-paid......."

[dai bread]

".......see someone dead lift 800 plus......"

I thought this was a very apposite slip, bearing in mind the subject of the post.

What a big difference a little hyphen makes: "....see someone dead-lift 800 plus......"

[piqaboo]

".......see someone dead lift 800 plus......"

Man, them's some heavy daisies!

[OperaTenor]

I find it quite hypocritical that the same folks who complain bitterly about tax money going to government-enforced "redistribution of wealth" and "socialized medicine" don't seem to have a problem with blowing tax money on this farce.

[Marye]

Prostitution is legal in New Zealand? Smart and progressive.

Wait... Canada has Gay Marriage, and are working on decriminalizing pot. Maybe we will grow up over prostitution one day. It would certainly prevent 11 years olds from walking the streets.

[GreatCarouser]

So Marye, what kind of noises is your government making vis-a-vis steroids and professional baseball/sports?

[shostakovich]

Ahhhhhhh, Bach!
Now THERE'S a composer with wonderful Man Boobs!

Regards,
Tres Belle
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...not to mention a shrinking Schuppanzigh!

Regards,
Tres Belle

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He still managed to father 20 kids. Maybe size doesn't matter.


I was surprised nobody mentioned Canseco. The fans are down on him now, but once they were for him before he was a player. As a patron in the stands he found them very considerate. Before the start of the game they all stood up to ask "Jose, can you see?"


OK, it's an old joke, but still active. Maybe on steroids??
Happy Spring, all.

[lioness]

Originally posted by dai bread:
That was the thinking when we legalised prostitution here.

Now we have ads in the SitsVac for prostitutes. They're not called that, of course. "Ladies, would you like to be well-paid......."

do you think they get paid for the job interview too? :p

[dai bread]

One could do well if they did. Just think of all the interviews you could cram into a day......

[lioness]

rofl!!

[Marye]

Originally posted by Great Carouser:
So Marye, what kind of noises is your government making vis-a-vis steroids and professional baseball/sports?

None....

We did the screaming investigation thing with Ben Johnston, steroids and amateur sport....

You probably don't know this, but in a recent winter Olympics when skiboarding became a medal sport, a Canadian won the first medal. Turns out he had cannibus in his system. Seems he was in a room a week earlier where "someone was smoking up" and that was where he got exposed. Well, by gum we howled our heads off at that response for which we reckoned he had just toked a lungful and believed he was making sense. There was no end of hilarity on this topic for quite sometime. Seems smoking dope is not a banned substance in the Olympics so he kept his medal.

So... no. We currently are not bothered by steroids in professional sport.

[OperaTenor]

Hi Mary,

Do you know if the Canadian government would foot the bill for such an investigation into professional sports, assuming there were no laws broken(or, have they ever?)?

[barfle]

Originally posted by OperaTenor:
I find it quite hypocritical that the same folks who complain bitterly about tax money going to government-enforced "redistribution of wealth" and "socialized medicine" don't seem to have a problem with blowing tax money on this farce.

Just because I missed a couple of days' postings doesn't mean that I think the congress is doing anything except grabbing TV time with this rather stupid interference in something they have no laws regarding.

I seem to recall McGuire admitting he took some kind of legal steroids while he was kicking the crap out of the HR record. It might take me a while to find it with all the other news reports that would crop up with "McGuire" and "Steroids" used as search parameters.

There is slight justification (not that I condone it - note that I've tried to explain positions I did not agree with in the past and was slammed for it, so this disclaimer is being posted BEFORE anyone accuses me of taking this position) in that the US government granted MLB an exemption to the anti-trust laws, so there is legal (although that's about it) justification for them wanting to clean baseball's house for them. Myself, I quit voluntarily sending money to the crybaby millionaires after the strike that cancelled the World Series (I'm not boycotting businesses that advertise during MLB games, etc.). That year, I had a business trip to Syracuse, NY that included a weekend, so I went to see the MLB Hall of Fame in Cooperstown. I can't tell you when I felt like so much of a hypocrite.

It's really a shame, because I enjoy the heck out of baseball. Minor league games can be quite entertaining, and they cost a lot less than watching millionaires. And I can't imagine going to a Nats game, since DC sold out to MLB by giving away yet another stadium that will not be used for anything more popular than tractor pull competitions ten years from now.

[Marye]

Hey OT... can't say they would. They paid for the investigation into Amateur sporting scandals because the Canadian government gives amateur sports money - not a lot - but they were representing Canada and its looks a bit embarrassing to be caught cheating...

Currently we have an ongoing investigation into a Sponsorship scandal since the last Government in power, which is pretty much the current one, gave away pots of taxpayer's money (100 million) to their friends. Everyone, including the past and current Prime Ministers have had to sit before the Gomery Inquiry and be grilled about their actions(something Bush escaped having to do). I have found it rather hilarious to watch...lots of squirming about.

If we were going to stick our noses in anywhere it might have been to get hockey players back to work... but nope..... we didn't.

So.. the answer is no...

[OperaTenor]

Trap count:

Lessee......1 so far, 2, possibly 3 still out there........



Hi Mary,

I think it's perfectly legitimate for government to investigate something they're providing some sponsorship for, such as amateur athletics.

Hi Barfle,

Why does MLB rate exemption from antitrust laws? They're a business like any other.

[barfle]

Originally posted by OperaTenor:
Hi Barfle,

Why does MLB rate exemption from antitrust laws? They're a business like any other.

Personally, I don't believe they "rate" it, but they have it. What I think that means is that you can't start up a competing baseball league like some have done with football and basketball.

I notice you hit 5k on the PW score.

Amazing. Awesome. Beyond belief. Congratulations.

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