BigJon wrote:Lliam, I'm not sure where you got that text, but papal infallibly would not apply in this situation. The Pope could apologize for this without violating any tenants of the church. But why would he?
Hi Big, Mmmm, not sure where you going with this, I'm not a 'Theologian'.
About one-fifth of the planet is Roman Catholic, and the other non-Catholic billions would probably acknowledge Pope Benedict XVI's position as a moral force, just as I, a practicing Catholic, acknowledge the importance and impact of what the leaders and prophets of the world's other major religions have to say.
Here again the example of the Vatican is enlightening. Part of Catholic theology is the concept of Papal infallibility, a concept that surely must have been stretched to the breaking point during the Middle Ages and subsequent Renaissance. Papal infallibility means just what the words imply--that the Pope is never wrong. There is one major qualification: modern Popes almost never invoke the mantra of Papal infallibility. In other words, in almost all matters, the Pope acknowledges that he may very well be wrong. But every so often, a debate comes along that a Pope believes is so important, that he invokes Papal infallibility in arguing his case. This happens very rarely. Believe what you will about papal infallibility, Popes with numerous illegitimate children running large city-states in fifteenth century Italy have left me skeptical of the concept.
Still, the point remains. If the Pope almost always acknowledges his own moral fallibility, what does it say about ordinary individuals who don't? Granted, some issues require a public moral response. If you really believe abortion to be murder, I sure as hell hope that you're out there throwing your body in front of abortion clinics. But the great meat debate doesn't carry nearly the same moral gravity. However, I would like to point out that while strawberries and other fruits and veggies are responsible for the salinization of California's Central Valley, I don't ever recall seeing a YSEC table tent urging the protest of the latest Sharon-Stone-feeds-Michael-Douglas-chocolate-covered-strawberries-in-bed movie.
Doctor-assisted suicide is an abomination. I believe that issues must be left up to the individual. To inject morality into such debates, to say that I'm right because I think I am, and that's all, serves only to reveal the incredible arrogance of these groups and the individuals who make them up.
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