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Hands across the Atlantic

Postby lliam » Fri May 20, 2005 10:55 am

I hesitated to post this thread but I thought it might make a interesting debate. What do you reckon guys?


Top-level delegation of BNP(British National Party) officials is today
flying high over the Atlantic to attend a three-day conference aimed at bringing together European nationalists and American patriots of European descent.

As American society continues to be split on ethno-cultural lines, white Americans of European origin are trying to define their role on the continent as other ethnic and cultural groups are increasingly determining the political agenda. Yesterday (19th) Los Angeles voters gave Antonio Villaraigosa a landslide victory to become the first Hispanic mayor since 1872. Hispanics make up more than 25% of the total population in a handful of south western states (California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas) and on present immigration and growth trends white Euro-Americans will be a minority throughout the USA before the end of the current century.

Establishing ties

Against the background of growing tensions between the ethnic groups white European Americans are seeking to organise both politically and culturally to ensure their collective voice is heard and that they can secure a future for their descendants. Whereas in the UK and in many European nations credible political parties are emerging which give voice to the aspirations of the indigenous ethnic groups, in the USA there are no such political parties to speak up for the Euro-Americans. There have been many small and insignificant groups; publishers of journals, books and radio broadcasts but few have entered into the political arena attempting to win power by the ballot box. A realisation that Euro-Americans need a political vehicle, which can engage in the election process, has brought together a number of leading patriots and this weekend’s conference seeks to strengthen ties between those representatives.

BNP example

Party Chairman, Nick Griffin is leading the BNP delegation to speak at the European American Conference as guests of David Duke in Louisiana. Representatives from patriotic parties of Spain, Canada and Sweden will also be attending. The substantial progress of the BNP on many levels; electoral, legal, political and our growing professionalism is greatly respected by patriotic Americans and Mr. Griffin will be presenting to the conference news about our gains, our opportunities and also the many threats to our continued existence as State repression is used to silence criticism of the multi-cultural experiment.

A report of what promises to be an exciting conference, which should animate and encourage patriotic nationalists on both sides of the Atlantic will be posted after the weekend.

http://www.bnp.org.uk/index.php
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby Selma in Sandy Eggo » Fri May 20, 2005 11:14 am

<yawn> European connection? Well, my sewing machine is a Bernina. And the Ellay mayor is a "Viva la Raza" hombre, not a "Viva Espana" tissyprissle. The intense excitement seems confined to the delegates.

Of course that could be because many of us have roots in multiple places; I can claim probably half of Europe plus the British Isles. Many of us can claim multiple continents, not just multiple countries.

Your Griffin dude is a legend in his own mind. And I'm personally amused at the idea of "restoring democracy" to a country that has a monarch.
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby Serenity » Fri May 20, 2005 11:47 am

Mutt vs Purebread.....same difference
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby lliam » Fri May 20, 2005 12:52 pm

The British National Party continues to grow at an extraordinary rate. Our severely overworked, but dedicated telephone enquiry team has fielded thousands of enquiries since the start of the election campaign, reaching a peak in the 72 hours after the BNP's Party Political Broadcast screened on BBC, C4 and Sky TV. The record of just under 10,000 enquiries which the party received during the European Election campaign last year has already been eclipsed in this Westminster Election campaign, and there are still many more calls expected if the results announced throughout Friday morning suggest a national swing towards the only party that can be taken seriously as defenders of free speech, and upholders of our culture.

Very shortly after the Election the BNP Internet Team will be launching a brand new BNP online forum. This will be the exclusive preserve of those who have placed their own necks on the block, to those who have risked ostracism and loss of job, career or business opportunities by becoming fully paid up members of the Party
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby Angie Parkes » Fri May 20, 2005 4:29 pm

Lliam, are you associated with the BNP?
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby piqaboo » Fri May 20, 2005 6:18 pm

The Europeans are coming over to protect the majority from the minority? Sounds like a feeble reason to take a trip to LA and get some good weather.
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby dai bread » Fri May 20, 2005 6:23 pm

They get a very bad press out here.

Many of us are in Selma's boat anyway. If we non-Maori are sent back to our ethnic roots, which body part goes where? In many cases, some of the body stays here. Caucasian & Polynesian have been interbreeding since Captain Cook's visit in 1769.
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby lliam » Sat May 21, 2005 6:07 am

Originally posted by Angie:
Lliam, are you associated with the BNP?
Hi Angie, yes I'm a fully paid up member. ;)
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby lliam » Sat May 21, 2005 7:36 am

"Cat" is a remarkable Canadian lady writer who has been a committed nationalist since her teenage years. Her poetic and romantic style of writing her "Catgrams" may bewitch the casual reader, who is thus drawn into agreeing with the fundamental observations and conclusions that make perfect sense, but which are in defiance of today's politically correct repression.
It is a genuine pleasure to welcome a committed lady nationalist who is prepared to be so passionate and to make such a significant contribution to our struggle for survival.
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The Branch is Breaking.
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I know that many of you come to read this column because the words are usually a bit funny or the message is put out in a cheek in tongue manner oft times and I highly suspect that some of you just come to read the Tickle and Punch Political puppet shows, (which I have great fun writing and actually consider to be one of the perks of this column) but today, I have something really quite serious to say to you. You are not thinking of yourselves enough. I know, I know, we are all taught that we should always think of others first and that we should be giving and unselfish and I know that that is right and true, but when you never think of yourselves, when you are so selfless that it crosses over to being self harming, then you really need to take stock. There is a difference between being giving and good and between causing yourself harm over being so selfless that it hurts you. If you will not stop being so selfless that it harms you, then perhaps if I put it another way the most caring and selfless people in the world will listen to my message. I shall put it this way, if you will not stop being selfless for yourselves then you might want to consider it, for the sake of your children, for the sake of the future generations. Stop being so selfless Cat looks at you and thinks,' That will get them to stop being so selfless! They will not want to harm their children in any way or the future generations to come! When one is dealing with a giving and caring people sometimes one must pull out the big guns and really resort to using their own sense of selflessness against them...for their own good of course. It's hard to help a basically caring and selfless people to get motivated to help themselves instead of helping everyone else in the world and as sneaky as I feel for using your own sense of upset at the idea of causing harm to your own future generations, if it will help you to stop thinking of every other nation before yourself, then, well, I will just have to do it! The way I see it, it's like a seeing a man who is so good that he has decided to hang off a tree branch to save others from a river. The branch is going to break, there's no doubt about it. The branch can only hold so much weight and the man is going to fall in the river himself soon and seeing as he won't be able to help either the people already in the river or himself once he falls in, which looks to be an event soon to happen if he doesn't get off that tree branch, then one must get that man to come off that tree branch, no matter how good he is trying to be! The British people are like the man on the tree branch. You are trying so hard to save the whole world, to give to every other nation, to feed every other nation, to care for every other nation and don't think that no one notices how hard you try because the rest of the civilised nations of the world note it, but now you must see that you are in danger of falling in the river. Impossible tasks You just can't feed the world, help every nation on earth, give all that you have and all that you are so that others are happy in life. You have opened your borders wide, have given your tax dollars to feed other nations, you have given and given till it hurts and you must stop now. You have been bending over backwards to help others, have put up with so much, have even been caring despite some of the very people you have tried to help have complained all the more bitterly that you need to help them even more and have even demanded it. Now if you won't stop dangling your outstretched arm from that tree branch for your own sake, let’s look at what this is doing to your children's future. I am sorry and I do apologise for having to do this to you, it feels rather like threatening a priest or a vicar, not a good feeling, but if it will do them good in the end, help them to save themselves, well, so be it! Let us look at what your giving nature is doing to your own children and the nation they will grow up to inherit. If you keep on in this giving manner, your hospitals will continue to be run down and home to those terrible germs, your people shall continue to be on long waiting lists for wheelchairs, your homeless will continue to go unsheltered, your economy will be crushed by foreign companies coming in and making a mint off your nation and then leaving you as fast they came in, once they have made a good profit off you, your way of life shall continue to decline, your aged shall continue to freeze in winter and live in poverty............You must stop giving ! Who suffers? Let me put it another way, if you just have to give, if you just feel you really couldn't possibly stop giving, then why not give to your own nation, to your children's futures, to your aged, to your ill, to your future generations. That is giving too! It is! Come now, think about this please. You will still be giving and still be caring people, but you are just directing that giving nature of yours towards your own nation. See? Still giving. You can stop frowning now because you would still be giving. I am not asking you to stop giving. I am not asking you to change your nature. I am merely asking you to give to your own nation. Monk in a minefield Cat smiles and looks hopeful, taps finger on desk and wonders if it always takes this much sneaky thought to get people this good to get down from that tree branch! It's like trying to get a monk to stop walking out into a minefield to look for people to save! You can't just tell him to not do it or shout, “Hey, get out of there! You're going to get yourself munched out there!" He's too good and he won't come back in and you know it, so you have to stand there while bullets are flying about your ears and look cheerful as you explain to him why it is he would still be a good person if he would just come and look for people to help...er.... behind the field of fire! Now I realise that the other parties are calling the BNP awful things and saying that the BNP is uncaring, BUT the BNP is not uncaring or else I would not be backing them and I mean that. I don't have a mean bone in my entire body and I never will have, so the whole uncaring topic is just so much piffle. BNP really does care The BNP is caring. It is the fact that they do care about the British and honestly, if they could care about Britain's interests first and also the rest of the world without breaking the bank in Britain, then they would do it. They, the good men and women of the BNP, are not uncaring. They are not monsters. That is so much piffle. They simply know that Britain's interests must come first. They honestly care, but they know that the tree branch is going to break if Britons continue to try to take care of the entire world. Britain can't possibly afford to house and feed the entire world and still take care of itself properly. It's not a matter of being uncaring, no honestly it is not. It is just a matter of common sense. The BNP wants the aged to be cared for, the ill to have proper care in the hospitals, the nurses to be paid well so that first class care is provided to the people, the wards to have matrons so that hygiene is paramount because really the last thing one wants when one is already ill is to have to worry about super bugs! The BNP wants the homeless to have housing, the business sector to not have to worry about foreign companies coming in and wiping out British based businesses only to leave after they have profited from Britain's economy. The BNP wants less government and more efficiency. I'll tell you what; the BNP actually wants the people to have the right to oust them from power after twelve months if the party is not doing all that it said it would do. How's that for honesty? That is an uncommon offer in this day and age and shows how earnest they are in regards to looking after their own people. I have studied and studied the other parties’ policies and have really looked at the BNP and I can honestly tell you that I can not find the monstrous fiends the other parties try to make the BNP out to be. All I can find is a party, which can see that the tree branch is going to snap if Britons do not stop dangling over the river. Making us the priority If the other parties all want to, (and they do) save the world, feed the world, house the world, while Britain suffers for it, yet they deem the BNP a terrible entity simply because the BNP feels Britain's interests must come first and foremost, which is all that nationalists really are to begin with, then I believe that to be quite a bewildering thing! They are simply people who believe that their nation must always be placed first in their priority list. If you must give, and I am pretty sure that no one could actually stop you from giving, then please vote for the BNP for at least you would be giving to your own children's futures, your own nation’s well being, your own aged, your own ill, your own schools and hospitals. If you must be worried for the homeless and the hungry and the dispossessed, then let it be worry for your own, for they need your help too. Before you continue to open your borders wide, please ask yourself, is it not a good thong to care first for the people already in side those borders? Please come in from off of the tree branch. It cannot sustain you much longer if you keep trying to save everyone else in the river and there are people back on your own dry land who need your help just as much. Cat looks at the good Britons on the branch and hears the creaking of the wood and slaps her hands over her face in horror, decides to try to sound calm as the do-gooders keep dangling off the flimsy branch and says in a calm tone of voice," If you come in off of that branch, you could do plenty of good things for your own people here on the ground.... honest you could!" I am going to have some morning tea now. It is hard work trying to talk intrinsically good and selfless people down from that tree branch and takes quite a fair bit of diplomacy to make them see that they would still be good people if they saved themselves and helped their own nation. Cat looks out window and ponders and has a wickedly humorous thought. If they were less good and less selfless, I could just blithely mention that they were about to lose their own hide in the river if they didn't get off that tree branch and they would hop off in two seconds flat! Ah well, needs be, dealing with basically selfless people takes some delicate handling of the matter before they will save themselves
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby lliam » Sat May 21, 2005 8:00 am

Patriots, Nationalists, Stand Tall, Stand Together
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So, it has started. It probably started a long time ago, but I did not want to face up to it. People who belong to legal political parties which oppose Blair’s' regime are being taken from their beds in the dark of night, pulled from their homes in the silent hours and dragged off to be placed in jail cells. Hints are thrown out in public, suggesting that nationalists shall be placed under house arrest one fine day and now the same laws which are supposed to be used to protect us all from terrorists shall quite probably be misused instead to drag even more of your fellow country men, decent nationalists from their homes in the dead of night. On February the 24th, 2005 it was announced that people might now be banned from using computers, from using telephones and from travelling anywhere at all even if their were no charges laid against them. I don't give a flying leap about what happens to terrorists. I don't care if the police take the bloodthirsty creatures and throw them off a cliff. I mean those words. I am a Canadian and I remember the horrible chill that ran through all of us the day our neighbours were killed, murdered, blown to pieces by terrorists. I remember trying to grasp the idea that people in the States had woken up that morning and had gone to work just like any other day and that now they were dead, all dead. I don't care what happens to a bunch of middle eastern terrorists because I saw my neighbours dying on the screen of my television set that morning and I just don't care and I never will care about what happens to bloodthirsty terrorists. I do care about an entirely different topic, one which involves perfectly sane, perfectly normal, perfectly decent citizens, who happen to be nationalists and patriots, being abused by the ruling party now that civil liberty is being taken away. That is something I care very much about. Kidnapping canariesI may enact a law to stop rabid dogs from terrorising the streets, but should I be allowed to use that law to start kidnapping people's canaries from their homes? I may enact a law to protect people from robbers, but should I be allowed to use that law to go into people’s homes and take their goods from them in order to prevent these things from ever being stolen by said robbers? I might enact a law for very good reasons and then abuse that law in order to silence my fellow citizens from ever speaking up or from ever having a political party, which opposes me. Abuse of a law, It is not a law, which worries me. It is the abuse of said law, which concerns me. Why are decent citizens who happen to be nationalists being dragged from their beds and taken by police in the middle of the night? Why is a powerful man in government announcing that he would like to have all members of a nationalist party arrested under the new, aptly named, 'Control Orders" bill? If a law is being enacted in order to protect us all from bloodthirsty lunatics then why would that same law be used to silence normal people, decent citizens who happen to be patriotic British nationalists? It is not the law, which bothers me as much as how that law is going to be abused. If I enact a law which basically says that I may silence anyone I want to silence and if I say that that law is going to be used against bloodthirsty lunatics then I had better not be planning to use that law against my own country men who happen to be nationalist party members, unless I feel like going down in history as one of the most unethical dictators Britain and Europe has ever known. There is already far too much bullying, harassing and intimidating of nationalists going on right now. People are scared to go to sleep at night for fear that they will be awoken from their beds by the police and dragged off in the dark night. Let us all pray that the victimisation of patriots is not about to grow into a nightmare of handcuffs and prison cells as the Extreme Left grows ever more out of control and ever more power mad. Hold fast and firmIn these dark times, let us hold together and pray silently for the return of democracy. Hold fast, hold firm, do not falter or grow silent good people, for the same proud nationalists who believe in God and in the flag and in their country and in democracy, the same who are today dragged off in the dead of night for questioning by the socialist regime will be the next era’s heroes and will ever be known as the men and women who stood openly and tall as patriotic nationalists even through the darkest of times. Cat
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby Serenity » Sat May 21, 2005 10:42 am

Are essay questions the norm in UK education?

I started reading the 2 posts but wondered when Cat would get to the point. It reminds me of foreign film where characters talk constantly but the written translation at the bottom of the screen posts spaced, short sentences and lets the viewer wonder if they've missed something.
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby Selma in Sandy Eggo » Sat May 21, 2005 10:55 am

FWIW, I don't usually read posts that run on that far. Didn't read Cat's. Editing for brevity and clarity would probably improve the whole thing.
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby lliam » Sat May 21, 2005 2:38 pm

Hi Serenity and Selma. :)

It may be difficult for you to understand what's happening in my Country.

I sent this essay... I mean, letter to my local newspaper, do you think they printed it??

If it helps you, they've printed a great deal of my lettrs up too present day.
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View from an ordinary man
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"Last year, in Britain, she was passed from one pimp to the next, initially for £4,000, eventually for £1,500, her value as a human trophy diminishing as her childhood was stripped away"-Daily Telegraph"

Detectives investigating the death of a teenage girl whose body was found in a park are looking for up to six men after revealing the victim was assaulted over several hours and may have been abducted "Daily Mail"

Girls as young as 10 are being prescribed the contraceptive pill "BBC News These and many other dreadful stories in the press lately, are examples of the "diversity" being forced upon us by the doyens of "diversity".

The multi-cultist elite, whose corrupt servants and blinkered acolytes make excuses and brand as racists or nazis those who protest against the horrors being perpetrated daily by the slave-masters behind the greatest treachery this country has ever known.And what are the police doing these days? Why, of course they are too in thrall to the degeneracy of multiculturalism.

They flagellate themselves for being "institutionally racist". They must be careful not to offend criminals or those who take advantage of the pernicious "human rights" cult, while turning a blind eye to human wrongs.

And all the while the deluded hordes, drugged by sex and toys and up to their necks in debt and ignorance, keep on voting for the arch-liar and traitor, Blair.
They are somehow blinded to the fact that their country has been taken to a foreign war on a lie, and that they are saddled by over a trillion pounds of debt, that their ancient homeland has been invaded by an uncaring, hostile religion determined to supplant their hard won freedoms with a backward-looking faith based on a doctrine of logical absurdity and hatred of all things natural and wholesome.

Add to all that a government that wants to take advantage of the misery of debt by allowing foreign interests to build gambling dens with all the attendant evils that seduce the weak and vulnerable.

Then there's 24hr drinking in parallel with the drugs racket and the constant stream of ambulances ferrying the victims to the already overloaded A&E departments.

Then there's the nuclear armed Iran, eying up the nuclear armed Israel and just over the border from the huge concentration of US forces being readied for the next conflict to edge us ever nearer to world war three.

And what of Korea? Should I mention the corruption of the EU, or that NL may about to attempt another deal with the IRA?

There are other things I could say but I leave that to whoever is aware and not blinkered by bigotry and self-delusion.

Not comfortable with the above? Did you vote for Blair? Did you condemn the people looking to alternatives to the monster in parliament such as the BNP, UKIP and other forces for change and a return to sanity and democracy?

Perhaps you didn't vote at all but instead turned away in apathy, weakness or a failure of nerve.
Perhaps you think I'm a racist, nazi or some other threat to your fragile little bubble of delusion?

Too bad, that’s how it really is. And it is going to get worse before it gets better.
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby Selma in Sandy Eggo » Sat May 21, 2005 5:43 pm

Lliam, we have no trouble understanding you. You are shocked and appalled and it's largely because Those People are Behaving Wrong. I just pointed out that it doesn't take a foot of column space to say so.
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby lliam » Sun May 22, 2005 6:13 am

Ok Selma, lets not squabble. My local newspaper published my letter. I could write a foot or more of column on the crime in one day, that's escalated in this Country. I was wondering more than anything else, if the same thing is happening in any of the States in America?
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby Angie Parkes » Sun May 22, 2005 4:04 pm

Lliam, I get worried when people start consorting with the likes of David Duke and call it "patriotism". If the BNP does not wish to be called racist then it should stop associating with them.

"Britain for the British," is that the rallying cry, now?
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby OperaTenor » Sun May 22, 2005 6:58 pm

BNP = Britische Nazionalist Partie?!!

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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby Serenity » Mon May 23, 2005 12:05 am

OT!...Liam has had enough of a tough time without your hecklin'
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby lliam » Mon May 23, 2005 11:16 am

Originally posted by Serenity:
OT!...Liam has had enough of a tough time without your hecklin'
Oh, its ok Serenity.

Ich bin ein Berliner. :D
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Re: Hands across the Atlantic

Postby OperaTenor » Mon May 23, 2005 11:16 am

Hi Serenity,

You're just jealous because I beat you to the punch............this time.

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