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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby Shapley » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:39 am

Ah, my Beloved, fill the Cup that clears
To-day of past Regrets and future Fears --
To-morrow? -- Why, To-morrow I may be
Myself with Yesterday's Sev'n Thousand Years.

Lo! some we loved, the loveliest and best
That Time and Fate of all their Vintage prest,
Have drunk their Cup a Round or two before,
And one by one crept silently to Rest.

And we, that now make merry in the Room
They left, and Summer dresses in new Bloom,
Ourselves must we beneath the Couch of Earth
Descend, ourselves to make a Couch -- for whom?

Ah, make the most of what we may yet spend,
Before we too into the Dust descend;
Dust into Dust, and under Dust, to lie;
Sans Wine, sans Song, sans Singer, and -- sans End!

Alike for those who for To-day prepare,
And those that after some To-morrow stare,
A Muezzin from the Tower of Darkness cries
"Fools! Your Reward is neither Here nor There!"

Why, all the Saints and Sages who discuss'd
Of the Two Worlds so learnedly, are thrust
Like foolish Prophets forth; their Works to Scorn
Are scatter'd, and their Mouths are stopt with Dust.

Oh, come with old Khayyam, and leave the Wise
To talk; one thing is certain, that Life flies;
One thing is certain, and the Rest is Lies;
The Flower that once has blown forever dies.

Myself when young did eagerly frequent
Doctor and Saint, and heard great Argument
About it and about; but evermore
Came out by the same Door as in I went.


- Omar Khayyam -

As yet another thread turns Alkie!
Quod scripsi, scripsi.
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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby lliam » Tue Mar 14, 2006 1:54 pm

All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players:
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts,
His acts being seven ages. At first the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms.
And then the whining schoolboy, with his satchel,
And shining morning face, creeping like snail
Unwillingly to school. And then the lover,
Sighing like furnace, with a woful ballad
Made to his mistress' eyebrow. Then a soldier,
Full of strange oaths, and bearded like the pard,
Jealous in honour, sudden and quick in quarrel,
Seeking the bubble reputation
Even in the cannon's mouth. And then the justice,
In fair round belly with good capon lined,
With eyes severe, and beard of formal cut,
Full of wise saws and modern instances;
And so he plays his part. The sixth age shifts
Into the lean and slippered pantaloon,
With spectacles on nose and pouch on side,
His youthful hose well saved a world too wide
For his shrunk shank; and his big manly voice,
Turning again towards childish treble, pipes
And whistles in his sound. Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness, and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything.

William Shakespeare
(1564 - 1616)
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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby GreatCarouser » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:51 am

A few familiars for those who enjoy pondering the (almost?) imponderable....

"To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow; a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."
- William Shakespeare
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16 ¶ And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there.
17 I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.
18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.
19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
21 Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
22 Wherefore I perceive that there is nothing better, than that a man should rejoice in his own works; for that is his portion: for who shall bring him to see what shall be after him?
- Ecclesiastes 3

37Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
38Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.
JOHN 18:37, 38

....yet, despite his innocence he crucifies him anyway, almost on a whim?...What is truth indeed...
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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby shostakovich » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:11 pm

Thank you all for contributing. I particularly appreciate the literary (including Biblical) references.
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From DB: "Having failed dismally to become a rocket scientist, brain surgeon or Wagnerian bass, I have to get quite basic and say that the purpose of life is to pass on one's genes."

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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby GreatCarouser » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:04 pm

Originally posted by shostakovich:
Thank you all for contributing. I particularly appreciate the literary (including Biblical) references.
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From DB: "Having failed dismally to become a rocket scientist, brain surgeon or Wagnerian bass, I have to get quite basic and say that the purpose of life is to pass on one's genes."

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Succinct. Could that be it?
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And for those unwilling or unable?...Have they all failed?....
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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby Selma in Sandy Eggo » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:03 pm

Some of us are still thinking it over. ;)
>^..^<
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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby shostakovich » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:22 pm

Hi GC. I took DB's comment to be about life in all forms. I take yours to be about individuals.

Selma, I take yours to be a sensible approach to the whole business.
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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby lliam » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:35 am

Back to the thread:
Someone once said:

The Meaning of Life
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In its original form this question seems futile, since if we didn’t exist we wouldn’t be able to ask it. As it stands, it questions our own existence, which, since we don’t have any real control over the situation, is an entirely pointless exercise.

So what does the question really mean? Life, in itself, doesn’t appear to have any meaning, in the same way that a building or a machine doesn’t normally have any meaning, although it may well have a purpose. So perhaps the question should be:

What is the purpose of life?
Now the term ‘life’ needs to be considered carefully: are we talking about life in general or our own life? Since we can’t actually change cosmic things, we must restrict the question to our own existence, which leads to a rephrasing of the question as:

What is the purpose of my life?
Every purpose must be directed towards an object. Human beings serve, in varying proportions, themselves, other people or God. Those that direct their actions towards themselves are usually deemed as selfish, frequently indulging in only those things that give them pure pleasure. Those that serve others are considered compassionate, although the underlying motives for their actions may also be selfish and used in a way to improve their popularity, or they can be based on serving God. People that appear to serve God are often thought of as saintly, although sometimes their real reasons are selfish or designed to please others.

In the final analysis, our lives being finite, our only purpose must be to serve one being, and that being is God. Failing this, all our efforts to help ourselves, or even to help others and the world itself, will be lost in the dust of time.
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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby Shapley » Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:55 am

Life is what they do to you until they finally get around to killing you.
- Capt. Marvel -
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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby GreatCarouser » Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:30 pm

"Life isn't measured by the number of breaths you take, it's by the number of moments that leave you breathless"...
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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby BigJon@Work » Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:25 am

Originally posted by Great Carouser:
"Life isn't measured by the number of breaths you take, it's by the number of women that leave you breathless"...
There, I edited it to more closely align with my philosophy.
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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby BigJon@Work » Fri Mar 17, 2006 10:16 am

Or better yet:
"Life isn't measured by the number of breaths you take, it's by the number of women that you leave breathless
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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby shostakovich » Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:59 pm

We may be coming closer to the true meaning of life.
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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby lliam » Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:19 pm

My momma always said, "Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."
Forrest Gump
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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby Serenity » Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:34 pm

The meaning of your life is your life itself. Live it, enjoy it by focusing on what brings you joy and share with others. The purpose of your life is anything you wish it to be, whether some palpable cause or spiritual cause, so pick something pleasant and be immersed in it. No one knows what happens after we pass away; there is nothing in particular we need to do but simply enjoy your life as much as possible. Anything else I could add would be too much.
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Re: Thoughts on the Meaning of Life

Postby OperaTenor » Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:25 am

Wellllll, look who dropped in!

Are you back, Serenity?
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