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I Got Polled

Postby BigJon » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:52 pm

The Gallup organization called me on the phone the other night and asked me for my opinions on the economy, crime and security and the upcoming elections. It was that first time I've ever been asked to participate in a national political poll. I had some free time, so I agreed to participate. It was a surreal experience for a thinking man.

The questions contained many false dichotomies and were formed in such a way that thoughtful replies weren't needed at all. For example. One question was; do you approve or disapprove of the job that President Bush is doing? Well I'm down on enough of the administration activities that I would have to say I slightly disapprove of the job he is doing right now. But there was no way to nuance my answer, so I answered disapprove. Had I been given a five point scale such as; strongly disapprove, slightly disapprove, neutral, slightly approve or strongly approve, I might have answered neutral or slightly disapprove, based on my hormone cycle at the moment.

To put it simply, the poll sucked. And anyone who attempts to govern based on polling results such as these is retarded and unfit to hold public office. Sorry, these poll results can only be used as pablum for the masses.
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Postby jamiebk » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:35 am

I'd be curious to know how you verified (or became convinced) that this was actually a Gallop poll. I get a lot of calls asking me to "take a poll" or "answer some questions". Did the person who called you give you any information about themselves or their company? How long did it take and how many questions (approx.) did they ask? I am just curious. Thanks

(I agree that polls are not a great source of information...they can be too easily influenced by the manner in which questions are framed or asked. There is a terriffic book out called "How to Lie with Statistics" that tells a lot about this. I actually took this as a class in college...very enlightening)
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Postby Selma in Sandy Eggo » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:26 pm

Yup. Polling is the art of getting data to support your desired conclusion. That's why the phrasing of the questions is so important to pollsters, and why polling firms get paid so much. A properly worded poll can elicit practically any desired result.

I suppose that's why they don't call it research.
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Postby piqaboo » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:25 pm

Theres always this famous question:
"when did you stop beating your wife?"

Nuance that!
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Postby BigJon » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:42 pm

He got the company name right and the correct state in which they are located. The questions also did not steer towards one party's talking points. The poll took between 10 and 15 minutes.

I've been on the receiving end of several of the local election "informational polls" which quickly degraded into obvious partisan cheerleading. You should have heard me with those folks, I think I had to re-affix the wallpaper in several places after I hung up with them.
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Postby Selma in Sandy Eggo » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:12 pm

I use my auto insurance company's website to pay the premiums, and they sent me an "invitation" to evaluate my experience on their website. Then followed it up with "courtesy reminders".

Their survey site is annoying and inflexible, won't take text evaluations in lieu of click buttons, and insists on having all the buttons clicked before it will advance to the next screen. So I killed the survey, and the insurance company got an irate email reply instead. I explained to them that their insurance is just fine, their company website is middlin'-OK, and their survey sucks.

I'm awaiting their response. I hope a real live human has to type it.
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Postby shostakovich » Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:12 pm

jamiebk wrote:(I agree that polls are not a great source of information...they can be too easily influenced by the manner in which questions are framed or asked. There is a terriffic book out called "How to Lie with Statistics" that tells a lot about this. I actually took this as a class in college...very enlightening)


Polls irritate me, as they influence the results of what is being polled. And that's the honest polls. BigJon used an example of an unfair question. I'm sure polss contain lots of those. And, then, there are the "interpretations" of the poll results, which can vary considerably.

I remember an entertaining book called How to Lie With Statistics, some 50 years ago. I think the author's name was Darrell Huff. Same book?
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Postby jamiebk » Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:16 am

shostakovich wrote: I remember an entertaining book called How to Lie With Statistics, some 50 years ago. I think the author's name was Darrell Huff. Same book? Shos


Shos...it may very well be the same book. College, for me, was 33 years ago
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