Gotta see it!

[rwcrooks]

Been a while since I've seen Blazing Saddles. About all I can remember is them sitting around the fire and a horse getting punched. I should rent it again.

When you referred to europeans living in segregated cities, I thought that you meant in Europe.

I think I'm beginning to see where you're coming from.

[OperaTenor]

You might want to give me some insight, Rich, cuz so far all I see of Ajax' majority race are Aryans.

"Manifest Destiny"?!! "Nationalism"?!! Does your wardrobe include a lot of brown shirts?

Ask any native American how they feel Manifest Destiny panned out for them.

[OperaTenor]

Originally posted by Shapley:
OT,

Maybe their is reason it faces Europe, and wasn't placed in the Gulf of Mexico???

V/R
Shapley

Hi Shap,

And I thought it was so the "Freedoms" who built it and gave it to us could have it facing their country.

[Ajax]

"Blazing Saddles" has a number of great one-liners in it. When discussing the parceling of new land, the Mayor says, "ok, we'll give some land to the niggers and the chinks, but we DONT want the Irish".
Crowd mumors.
Black Sheriff, "No deal"
(pause)
Mayor, "Ah prairie sh!t, everyone!"

There is no way this movie could be made nowadays, depsite the fact that the hero of the movie is black.

[Ajax]

Nice try with the Nazi crap. I was waiting for someone like yourself to try to play that card. In the 1950's, people would try to scare you by calling you a communist. Since the political paradigm has changed, they now try to push people around this the ol'Nazi tag.

weak, very weak.

[rwcrooks]

OT,

Don't forget, we also let the Spanish and French have their share of Manifest Destiny.

[Shapley]

Ajax,

At least he didn't call you an Arab!

V/R
Shapley

[rwcrooks]

Actually the Aryans were from the area now known as Iran (which is why they don't call themselves Arabs). it is only the Nazis who considered Aryans to be of Nordic descent.

[rwcrooks]

Ajax,

I guess that there just aren't that many communists left. China's pretty much capitalist. Russia appears to be either capitalist or organized crime. That just leaves Cuba. It took about 100 years to disprove the communist ideas.

[rwcrooks]

So Shap,

Why do you put Queen Victoria's monogram above your name?

[Ajax]

Heaven forbid, call me an Arab!

The "obtuse tenor" is back to personal slanders. ggggrrreatttt

Do you love me or what, OT?

[Shapley]

Rich,

Yes, I did read something recently about that. The book I was saying stated that there really is no "Aryan" race, since the people called Aryans are the decendants of intermarriage between the indigenous peoples of Europe and invaders from the Middle East. I don't recall which book I read that in.

V/R
Shapley

[OperaTenor]

Ajax,

You haven't got the foggiest clue as to whither my politics lean, or even if they do.

You just championed the idea that Whitey knows what's best for all the colored folks on the planet, and it's Whitey's destiny to suborn them. That kind of thinking wiped out most of the native Americans, north and south, and killed scores of millions in the last century. You called several ethnicities "minorities", then backpedalled when you were called on it. I sensed a pretty condescending tone when you referred to Mexico as well.

You're right, though, it's pretty weak. Downright anorexic.

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[rwcrooks]

Shap,

Looks like I tagged OT in. Now Ajax has to find someone willing to tag.

That was about all I know of the Aryans, recalled from my Philology classes. The spoke Proto-IndoEuropean, which was the mother tongue of everyting from Sanskrit to German to Latin.

[Ajax]

Called me on what, obtuse? I have not championed any ideas. I have only brought up FACTS. You are playing the "whitey card" not me!

And what thinking is it that you are referring to? Calling non-white ethnicities, minorities? They sure were in the time in the historical context that this subject was being discussed.

[piqaboo]

Originally posted by Ajax:
Heaven forbid, call me an Arab!

The "obtuse tenor" is back to personal slanders. ggggrrreatttt

Do you love me or what, OT?

He must. Thats how he met me - by offering me such an egregious insult that I couldnt help but laugh my *ss off! Should I be jealous?

[piqaboo]

Q re non-white groups, being referred to as minorities by Ajax:
Im curious how italians, hassidic jews and gypsies got defined as "non-white".

[mmichaelson]

Calm Piq. Need a sugar lift? (I think I hear twinkies calling!)

[rwcrooks]

Piq,

I've seen your picture, but haven't seen Ajax's. I'll hold judgement until he posts his.

But then, I've seen OT's pic too.

[Ajax]

I am understand as Aryan as described by Shapley, but it was in questionable text, so I can't validate it either. I think OT was referring to Aryan, in being a 1930's Nazi?
OT, I don't really care which way you swing on the political rectum. Irregardless, it was another attempt to slander, and I called you on it. Have a nice day, OT.