is there an easier solution...possibly like recording the stream (with a program like beaver x) and burning it to a cd or putting it on an ipod so u can listen to beethoven radio, but only, its not the live stream?<P>ive been lookin around for ways to do this...and the only mac app that ive seen that can do this so far is beaver x, available from melonsoft.com (? i think im not sure tho) it asks you for the address of the stream..and also the port. is there anyway that i can obtain this information? ive looked at the stream within itunes, and it says the address is this: <BR> <A HREF="http://pri.kts-af.net/redir/index.pls?esid=4432ab8c6b5dbd9e7a6178ea09b5cd55&url_no=1&client_id=7&uid=68efed4d03ec7e45fd3978262c107180&clicksrc=xml" TARGET=_blank>http://pri.kts-af.net/redir/index.pls?esid=4432ab8c6b5dbd9e7a6178ea09b5cd55&url_no=1&client_id=7&uid=68efed4d03ec7e45fd3978262c107180&clicksrc=xml</A> <P>but i cannot connect using that program, because you need a port number too, and i dont know that information. also, i dont know if that address is correct...hmmm...<P>can anyone give me that information? thanks a million!!!!!