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Postby dai bread » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:48 pm

Was our composer born & bred
With Italy's sun upon on his head?
And did he live to see the day
When Garibaldi passed away?
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Postby navneeth » Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:56 am

If the answers to dai's questions are yes and no, respectively, then is the composer Bellini?
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Postby Trumpetmaster » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:06 am

Hope you're feeling better Shapley!
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Postby Shapley » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:16 am

Thanks, T/M, the flu surely tested
my health but now I'm better rested.
Not quite recovered but to my desk I've returned
to look upon the paperwork spurned.

Not in Italy, by eve or morn
was this opera's composer born.
So, as anyone can plainly see
the composer was born in Germany!

In eighteen hundered and eighty two
Garibaldi's soul from this world flew.
A hero and adventurer brave,
this composer beat him to the grave.
Quod scripsi, scripsi.
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Postby navneeth » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:38 am

Did the composer die before Amex was founded?

If so, is the composer Otto Nicolai?

If he's the composer, could this be his only opera to preimer in his home country?
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Postby Shapley » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:08 am

in 1850 Wells, Fargo, and Butterfield did found
a new way to safely pass money around.
American Express was certainly a hit,
and this composer lived to witness it.
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Postby bignaf » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:59 pm

recap?
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Postby Trumpetmaster » Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:45 am

yes... please a recap...

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Postby Shapley » Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:37 am

In all the holiday shuffle and fluster,
I feared this game had lost its luster.
Or perhaps my rhyming grew too lame
and drove the readers from the game!

If we'd waited much longer to restart, I doubt
I'd have remembered which piece I was thinking about.
In order to provide you, dear reader, a map
to the solution, I'll compose a poetic recap.

In the ninteenth century the composer drew his first breath,
and during that same hundred years he passed to his death.
Born in Germany, before the year 1820 had passed,
the year 1850 was concluded before he breathed his last.
The composer had left us, to the grave departed,
Before the year of 1882 had started.

The work is orchestral, with soloists, too.
You've deduced that it's opera, that much is true.
It has more than one act, piece, movement, or part.
though there are not three in the work of musical art.

If I've correctly counted the questions between
my verses, we're ready for number seventeen.
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Postby Shapley » Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:48 pm

Well, I have to say I am really appalled
to see that this 30Q has so long been stalled.
Perhaps of guessing our players grow weary,
or perhaps my rhyming has become to dreary.

Howe'er it be, I shall try, I must
to drag this game back out of the dust.
Perhaps a hint, or two, or four,
will entice some players to come back for more.

Though the composer was born in the German land
he wrote his music with a Frenchman's hand.
Though he not born of the same musical stock,
when I hear his music I often think of Bach.

I've not seen the work performed as opera or play,
but I have seen it danced in the form of ballet.
There are musical numbers played often and well.
It starts out nicely and then just goes to Hell.
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Postby bignaf » Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:52 pm

Offenbach?
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Postby Shapley » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:26 pm

Offenbach was born in Cologne,
but as a Frenchman he is known.
Could this our composer be?
Indeed, it truly is he!
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Postby dai bread » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:54 pm

If Offenbach is our composer
Then surely this must be the closer.
"The Tales of Hoffmann" come to mind.
Is there any other kind?
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Postby Shapley » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:08 am

Les Contes d'Hoffmann, an interesting one,
but as a ballet I don't think it's been done.
Tales of Hoffman it is not,
This opera is set in someplace quite hot.
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Postby Catmando » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:09 am

Is it Orphee au enfers?

Congrats on 6K posts Shap!
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Postby Trumpetmaster » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:11 am

YES

Congrats on 6K posts!!!! :toast:
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Postby Shapley » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:59 am

The opera in question is Orphee au enfers
Or Orheus in the Underworld, if you prefers.
And Catmando takes the prize,
and the 6K mark was missed by my eyes.

(I know, I know, it's not the best of rhymes, but I haven't had my coffee yet this morning.)
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Postby Trumpetmaster » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:10 am

going to a luncheon with my parents in a few hours...

Looking forward to the next 30Q as I now have some time
to really sit back and think.... :D

Cat... pick a good one!!!! :mrgreen:
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Postby bignaf » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:15 pm

shap, Tales of Hoffman is Offenbach's only opera. Orpheus in his Underpants, uhh... in the Underworld, is an operetta.
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Postby Shapley » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:30 pm

According to Wikipedia, it was an Opéra bouffe, later revised to an Opéra féerie. An Opéra bouffe is defined as a 'type of operetta' while an Opéra féerie is defined as a 'type of opera'. In any case, the distinction between an Opera and an Operetta seems blurred, as we noted in our discussion of The Magic Flute.

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