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by **hal 9000** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:20 pm

Thank you for your list, bignaf!

List count: 4

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by **Shapley** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:45 am

I've submitted my list. It's very difficult to put them in any kind of order. It's usually easy to pick a favourite, but it's harder to pick a #2, or #3, or so on.

It seems like I look at my list and think - wait a minute, I like Saint-Saens better than I like Mendelssohn, and then, Oh! Wait - Tchaikovsky is definitely better than Beethoven. And then I look at the order and kick myself for putting some above others. - Ah, well, that's the way it goes. The list is submitted and I will not change it.

V/R
Shapley

by **hal 9000** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:33 am

Thank you for your list Shapley!

List count: 5

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by **hal 9000** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:53 pm

List count: Holding at 5.

Though there are some slightly meaningful results appearing, we need more lists to derive a solid Top Ten (right now, we have a solid Top 3-5

).

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by **Catmando** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:05 am

Navneeth........the clock is ticking. :roll:

by **navneeth** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:07 am

Catmando wrote:Navneeth........the clock is ticking.

I know...I, too, am sitting out of this one. I either include string quartets or I don't. If I don't, I don't think I can come up with 10 non-SQ pieces. But if I do, I NEED To include at least one of Beethoven's. But I haven't heard much of it to make a good judgement.

What's a top-ten list without Beethoven in it?

The only exceptions I can think of are opera, and maybe lieder/songs.

by **Catmando** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:11 am

navneeth wrote:
Catmando wrote:Navneeth........the clock is ticking.

I know...I, too, am sitting out of this one. I either include string quartets or I don't. If I don't, I don't think I can come up with 10 non-SQ pieces. But if I do, I NEED To include at least one of Beethoven's. But I haven't heard much of it to make a good judgement.

What's a top-ten list without Beethoven in it? The only exceptions I can think of are opera, and maybe lieder/songs.

This list can include Beethoven. You could still submit a partial list.

by **bignaf** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:29 am

nav, the list can include Beethoven and string quartets...

by **Trumpetmaster** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:02 am

So Far....

Trumpet is in 3rd place on this poll!!!!!

:mrgreen:

by **navneeth** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:12 am

bignaf wrote:nav, the list can include Beethoven and string quartets...

Yes, I know it can. But I haven't heard them all, LvB's string quartets, and even those I've heard only once or so. And I don't want to make a top ten list without Beethoven in it.

by **Selma in Sandy Eggo** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:15 am

It occurs to me that a whole lot more instruments should be listed - where are the guitar, the lute, the ukelele, the harp, the piano, the harpsichord, the virginal, dulcimer, and so on? I'd like to give the autoharp a sympathy vote, it gets no respect...

by **hal 9000** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:48 pm

Thank you for your lists, Marye and Serenity!

There is still just over an hour left for those that have yet to submit a list.

List count: 7

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by **hal 9000** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:53 pm

Well, the votes have been tallied and the results are in. The Top Ten String Pieces, as determined by 7 submitted lists nominating a total of 50 unique pieces from 23 different composers, are:

01. Barber- Adagio for Strings 43 points.
02. Schubert- String Quartet No. 14, D. 810 "Death and the Maiden" 29 points.
03. Tchaikovsky- Serenade for Strings 26 points.
04. Beethoven- String Quartet No. 14, Op. 131 18 points from 2 votes with the highest ranking of 1st.
05. Beethoven- String Quartet No. 15, Op. 132 'Hellinger Dankesaang' 18 points from 2 votes with the highest ranking of 2nd.
06. Beethoven- Große Fuge 17 points.
07. Dvorak- String Quartet No. 12, Op. 96 "American" 11 points.
08. Mozart- Serenade for Strings in G "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik" 10 points from 2 votes.
09. Beethoven- String Quartet No. 13, Op. 130 10 points from 1 vote.
10. Beethoven- String Quartet No. 10, Op. 74 'Harp' 9 points from 2 votes with the highest ranking of 4th.

Well this time around things got pretty interesting as far as determining the final Top Ten. The new system I use is not very good for accounting for ties and in order for it function correctly, there can be no ties in the top ten as before. This isn't usually a problem as when a two compositions have matching scores, there is usually a difference in the amount of votes that led up to that score, i.e. 24 points from 4 votes vs. 24 points from 3 votes. However, due to the low number of lists submitted this time, we had 2 ties in the top ten from both score and number of votes. So I had to get creative. I decided the tertiary method of breaking a tie should be the selection of the composition that received the highest ranking in any of the lists that nominated it as the higher placing composition. Hence, Beethoven's String Quartet No. 14 beat his String Quartet No. 15 because, though they both scored 18 points from 2 votes, No. 14 had the highest ranking of 1st place in both lists, whereas No. 15 had the highest ranking of 2nd in the lists that nominated it (which happened to be the same this time around). This is how the winner between the two was chosen and the same method was employed between Beethoven's String Quartet No. 10 and Tchaikovsky's String Quartet No. 1- Beethoven winning with the highest single rank of 4th vs. Tchaikovsky's highest single rank of 5th. Hopefully, I explained this well? Anyway, here are the individual results...

by **hal 9000** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:54 pm

1st place- bignaf 5 matching with a score of 20.40 points .

01. Beethoven- String Quartet No. 14, Op. 131 4.90 points.
02. Beethoven- String Quartet No. 15, Op. 132 'Hellinger Dankesaang' 4.20 points.
03. Crumb- String Quartet "Black Angels"
04. Schubert- String Quartet No. 14, D. 810 "Death and the Maiden" 7.20 points.
05. Dvorak- String Quartet No. 12, Op. 96 "American" 3.20 points.
06. Brahms- String Sextet No. 2
07. Paganini- 24 Caprices for solo violin
08. Bach- Partita in Dm for solo violin
09. Beethoven- String Quartet No. 10, Op. 74 'Harp' 0.90 points.
10. Haydn- Emperor Quaretet, Op. 76

Congratulations, bignaf! Your list best matched the general consensus list and therefore the topic of the next Top Ten thread is of your choosing. After I finish posting the rest of the results, I will post a compilation of topic ideas. Feel free to choose an eligible topic from that compilation OR provide a topic of your own. The compilation list is only for reference, you need not choose a topic from it if do not wish to. As soon as you have your topic choice, PM it to me.

by **hal 9000** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:55 pm

2nd place- Catmando 5 matching with a score of 16.70.

01. Beethoven- String Quartet No. 13, Op. 130 0.40 points.
02. Beethoven- String Quartet No. 15, Op. 132 'Hellinger Dankesaang' 4.20 points.
03. Beethoven- String Quartet No. 14, Op. 131 6.30 points.
04. Beethoven- String Quartet No. 10, Op. 74 'Harp' 0.40 points
05. Beethoven- String Quartet No. 12, Op. 127
06. Schubert- String Quartet No. 14, D. 810 "Death and the Maiden" 5.40 points.
07. Schumann- String Quartet No. 3, Op. 41/3
08. Brahms- String Quartet No. 1, Op. 51/1
09. Mendelssohn- Octet for Strings, Op. 20
10. Schubert- String Quartet No. 13, D. 804 "Rosamunde"

by **hal 9000** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:55 pm

3rd place- dai bread 4 matching with a score of 20.00.

01. Tchaikovsky- Serenade for Strings 6.40 points.
02. Paganini- Cantabile, Op. 17
03. Schubert- Quintet in A, Op. 114 "Trout"
04. Schubert- String Quartet No. 14, D. 810 "Death and the Maiden" 7.20 points.
05. Schubert- Quartet No. 10, Op. 125
06. Vivaldi- Concerto in D for Lute and Strings
07. Barber- Adagio for Strings 4.00 points.
08. Pachelbel- Canon & Gigue in D for Strings
09. Bach- Air on the G String
10. Mozart- Serenade for Strings in G "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik" 2.40 points.

by **hal 9000** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:55 pm

4th place- Serenity 4 matching with a score of 17.30.

01. Beethoven- Große Fuge 2.50 points.
02. Barber- Adagio for Strings 9.00 points.
03. Borodin- String Quartet in D
04. Shostakovich- String Quartet No. 8 in Cm
05. Tchaikovsky- String Quartet No. 1 in D, Op. 11
06. Debussy- String Quartet in Gm, Op. 10
07. Dvorak- String Quartet No. 12, Op. 96 "American" 4 points.
08. Mozart- String Quartet No. 19 in C, K. 465 "Dissonance"
09. Haydn- String Quartets Op. 33, No. 29-34 "Russian Quartets"
10. Schubert- String Quartet No. 14, D. 810 "Death and the Maiden" 1.80 points.

by **hal 9000** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:56 pm

5th place- Marye 3 matching with a score of 21.80.

01. Barber- Adagio for Strings* 10 points.
02. Schubert- String Quartet No. 14, D. 810 "Death and the Maiden" 9 points.
03. Schubert- String Quartet No. 15 in G
04. Boccherini- String Quintet in C, Op. 30
05. Schubert- String Quartet No. 13, D. 804 "Rosamunde"
06. Brahms- Sextet No. 1 in Bb
07. Brahms- Sextet No. 2 in G, Op. 36
08. Tchaikovsky- String Quartet No. 1 in D, Op. 11
09. Mendelssohn- String Quartet in Fm, Op. 80
10. Dvorak- String Quartet No. 12, Op. 96 "American" 2.80 points.

* Marye's exact vote was "Barber's String Quartet Op. 11, (where Adagio for Strings comes rom)"

by **hal 9000** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:56 pm

6th place- Shapley 3 matching with a score of 21.20.

01. Barber- Adagio for Strings 10 points.
02. Tchaikovsky- Serenade for Strings 7.20 points.
03. Saint-Saëns- String Quartet No. 2 in G, Op. 153
04. Beethoven- Große Fuge 4.00 points.
05. Dvorak- Serenade for Strings in E
06. Mozart- String Quartet No. 20 in D, "Hoffmeister"
07. Beethoven- String Quarte No. 11 in Fm, "Serioso"
08. Mendelssohn- Octet for Strings, Op. 20
09. Schickele- String Quartet No. 5 "A Year in the Country"
10. Tchaikovsky- Souvenir de Florence in D

by **hal 9000** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:57 pm

7th place- TrumpetMaster 3 matching with a score of 18.40.

01. Barber- Adagio for Strings 10 points.
02. Mozart- Serenade for Strings in G "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik" 1.20 points.
03. Beethoven- String Quartet No. 1, Op. 18
04. Tchaikovsky- Serenade for Strings 7.20 points.
05. Brahms- String Quartet No. 2
06. Schubert- String Quintet in C, D. 956
07. Dvorak- String Sextet in A, Op. 48
08. Mozart- String Quartet No. 14 in G
09. Vaugh Williams- Partita for Double String Orchestra
10. Rossini- String Sonata No. 3

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