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Postby Trumpetmaster » Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:44 pm

Schmeelkie wrote:one more thing - make sure that bunny is really chocolate. My husband relates a story of when he was a kid and took a big bite out of a wax bunny!! :shock: :yuk:


Goodness... That's nasty......

Must be Solid Chocalate Bunny... none of this where the inside is hollow..

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Postby jamiebk » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:18 pm

I guess you heard about the "Chocolate Jesus".

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/30/chocol ... index.html

You can't make this stuff up. I am not sure if the controversy was because it was a chocolate figure, or because that figure was "anatomically correct".

Either way (and excuse the pun), this is in bad taste.
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Postby Trumpetmaster » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:24 pm

Yes.. It was all over the news here... I do think it is in poor taste....

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Postby Shapley » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:28 pm

You can't make this stuff up. I am not sure if the controversy was because it was a chocolate figure, or because that figure was "anatomically correct".


I think it was the 'anatomical correctness' that drew the most opposition. There have been edible sculptures made before without much ado.

It's one thing to make a sculpture out of milk chocolate. It's quite another to make one out of milk chocolate with nuts...
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Postby barfle » Mon Apr 02, 2007 8:48 pm

I recall occasionally seeing a crucifix with a naked Christ on it. As I understand the process, those executed were naked as part of the supposed humiliation process.

Also as I understand the process, certain reactions of body parts occurred as death approached, supposedly further humiliating the executee.

Not to mention the multitude of images of naked Christ as an infant. Some people just have strange attitudes toward the fact that human beings are, well, human beings.
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Postby jamiebk » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:19 am

The article is a little long but....

Seeking to seduce gourmet chocolate fans
Wed Apr 4, 2007 9:08 AM ET

By Mathias Wildt

MILAN (Reuters) - "Nine out of ten people say they love chocolate. The tenth is lying," said Guido Gobino, 47, in his lab in Turin, northwestern Italy, as automated machinery stamped and wrapped his Tourinot chocolates in silver foil.

Made only with cocoa, sugar, vanilla and hazelnuts, they melt on the tongue, releasing a bouquet of chocolate velvet.

High-end chocolatiers like Gobino are making the most of mounting global appetites for gourmet chocolate, and leading a rise in demand for Italian-made brands.

Not widely associated with chocolate, the Italians nonetheless have won top prizes and claim a long history in the indulgence, saying they even taught the Swiss some core skills.

Worldwide gourmet chocolate sales should reach $1.62 billion in 2008, consultant Judith Ganes-Chase said last month. And Italian consumption has doubled in the last decade to 4.5 kg per head, though it still lags the European average of 7.5 kg.

"Chocolate exploded in the last year," said Davide Pogliani, who has added a room just to sell chocolates in his fine wine and food store in Milan. "We sell mostly Amedei -- considered the best in the world -- and Gobino."

Based in Pontedera, near Pisa, Amedei won a gold medal for best in the world in 2005 and 2006 from London's Academy of Chocolate.

Cecilia Tessieri, 39, and her brother Alessio, 42, who founded Amedei in 1989, took their search for the best ingredients to the ultimate conclusion and are the only Italian chocolatiers who run their own cocoa plantation in Venezuela.

"A good chocolate, like a good wine, starts from the vine," Cecilia Tessieri said.

CHOCOLATE SUPERTUSCANS

Italian chocolatiers have seen their exports rise 500 percent in the last five years as they added clients like chef Ferran Adria of famed El Bullin restaurant in Spain, and Fortnum and Masons, London's 300-year-old fine food emporium.

Gobino and Amedei are emerging because they meet demand for high-quality, organic products.

Gobino does not use any preservatives or artificial colors. For example, he makes white chocolate by removing the fiber from the cocoa, which is what gives it its dark color, and adding only cocoa butter, milk and sugar.

Also, he uses only Piedmont hazelnuts -- far costlier than the more common Turkish ones -- because they are 60 percent fat, which makes them creamier.

Choosing the best ingredients is not cheap. A 55 gram/1.92 ounce Amedei bar sells for 13 euros ($17), or 236 euros a kg, about 10 times the cost of industrial chocolates. Gobino chocolates cost about 50 euros a kg.

"They're expensive, but when it comes to spending for quality, high prices are not an issue for our clients," Pogliani said.

Around the world, prices for gourmet chocolates can reach stratospheric heights. In Connecticut, chef Fritz Knipschildt charges $250 for a single dark chocolate with a French black truffle inside -- $2,600 per pound.

Turin, Gobino's hometown in northwestern Italy, is the birthplace of Italy's $4 billion-a-year chocolate industry and now accounts for more than one-third of the country's production, which ranks fourth in Europe behind Germany, Britain and France.

FIRST WRAPPED IN TURIN

Yet Turin's claims go deeper than that.

Brought from America to Europe by the Spanish, cocoa became the drink of kings. The Spanish royals passed on the fashion to the French, who in turn initiated the Savoy family of Turin.

But it was Turin's chocolatiers who first wrapped chocolate to prevent oxidation, making lasting chocolates.

And, they say, they even taught the Swiss.

Turin's own Pier Paul Caffarel in 1826 taught the trade to Francois Callier, the pioneer of Switzerland's chocolate industry.

Today Turin's rich and powerful still turn to the city's chocolatiers for special occasions.

Gobino created the centerpiece for the wedding reception of John Elkann, vice-chairman of carmaker Fiat and heir to the Agnelli family empire.

At the reception, 350 chocolate replicas of Fiat's iconic Cinquecento car "drove" down a chocolate ramp to a base of white chocolate and raspberry, two meters wide and four meters long, all of it weighing 160 kg.

Marina Cutelle, who two years ago opened Chococult, a three-story chocolate bar in Milan, said champagne would have been a good choice to wash down that dessert.

Cutelle, who says she eats a pound of hazelnut chocolate in one sitting and offers a variety of wines and liqueurs to match the selection in her bar, said, "A flute of champagne after a milk chocolate gives maximum pleasure."

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Postby Schmeelkie » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:28 am

jamiebk wrote:I guess you heard about the "Chocolate Jesus".

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/30/chocol ... index.html

You can't make this stuff up. I am not sure if the controversy was because it was a chocolate figure, or because that figure was "anatomically correct".

Either way (and excuse the pun), this is in bad taste.


Why did I have the reaction upon seeing this, of imagining Homer Simpson saying, 'MMMMM, Chocolate Jesus" :yum:

Does that make me a bad person, or just a bad Christian?
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Postby Selma in Sandy Eggo » Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:56 am

Schmeelkie wrote: 'MMMMM, Chocolate Jesus" :yum:

Does that make me a bad person, or just a bad Christian?


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Oh, my goodness. I can just see it. I can hear it. :rolleyes:

You're a bad person. And I'll have coffee-scented sinuses all day!
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Postby piqaboo » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:38 pm

Selma in Sandy Eggo wrote:I'll have coffee-scented sinuses all day!


And what precisely could be wrong about that?
The only thing better to flavor sinusi would be..mmmm, oh jeezez, chocolate!
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Postby piqaboo » Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:41 pm

This past weekend, OT and I were at a wine-pairing thingie.
The dessert wine was paired with a black-current chocolate from
von Euw Chocolatiers, here in SandyEggo.
We met the owner, Michael. Im not sure what his business plan is, since there were many small boxes of his product about, but he couldnt tell me how I could buy some retail.

His product is unique in my experience in that he selects the chocolate for his coatings individually for each filling. Thus, a variety with fruity flavors might get paired with the dark chocolate raspberry filling, but not used for a coffee filling. That would be coated with a chocolate that had a different 'flavor profile'.

Whatever the jargon, the chocolates were bloody wonderful. I saved mine til today when I am both sober and not hungover, and I am soooo glad I did. They are small, very very very very very rich and utterly delicious. He has a knock-off of a Ferrer Rocher that knocks the original for a loop. Mostly, the sampler of 4 was focussed on dark chocolates, which I dont usually favor. This brand might convert me.

I hope he does well, and can start selling mail order or other retail.
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Re: CHOCOLATE!!

Postby jamiebk » Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:14 am

Hey...you guys remember this one?
Chocolate Jesus

Well, it's baaaack:

http://www.reuters.com/articlePrint?art ... 6220071017

Naked chocolate Jesus rises again in New York
Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:58am EDT
By Daniel Trotta

NEW YORK (Reuters) - A life-size chocolate sculpture of a naked Jesus will finally be displayed in New York starting in late October, seven months after an outcry by Roman Catholics forced a different gallery to cancel its exhibition.

The chocolate Jesus will be joined by sculptures of several fully clothed saints, but the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights said it will not protest because, unlike before, there are no plans to put the "anatomically correct" Jesus in public view during Holy Week.

The Proposition gallery in Manhattan's Chelsea neighborhood will present "Chocolate Saints ... Sweet Jesus," an exhibition timed to coincide with All Saints' Day on November 1. The show will run October 27 to November 24.

Back in March, the chocolate Jesus by artist Cosimo Cavallaro was to be exhibited in a street-level window of the Roger Smith Lab Gallery in Midtown Manhattan, giving casual passers-by a view of Jesus's private parts.

Protests, including a call to boycott the affiliated Roger Smith Hotel, forced the gallery to scrap the showing.

"We still don't approve but the conditions have changed," said Kiera McCaffrey, spokeswoman for the Catholic organization.

The new exhibition will take place indoors in a neighborhood full of art galleries, she said.

Images on the Proposition gallery's Web site (http://www.theproposition.com/wp/chocol ... eet-jesus/) show the work suspended in air, depicting Jesus as if on the cross.

A gallery statement said Cavallaro was raised as a Catholic altar boy and questioned church precepts but always held a fondness for Holy Communion.

"Remembering the mystical/transcendental quality and rushes of memory associated with the Catholic wafer received during Holy Communion, he recalls equating that ritual of ecstasy to his own experience of chocolate," the statement said.

The flap recalled another New York clash between art and religion. In 1999, then-Mayor Rudolph Giuliani tried to withdraw a grant from the Brooklyn Museum of Art over a painting depicting the Virgin Mary as a black woman splattered with elephant dung and adorned with cut-outs from pornographic magazines.


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Re: CHOCOLATE!!

Postby lliam » Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:21 am

I suppose ya'll know about Kraft taking over Cadbury's? This is a sad day in our history. We British are the softest touch on the Globe and the Banks are even worse they let Kraft borrow 7 Billion £'s to make the deal.

So, now we've got a company who's in debt for 7 Billion £'s who've taken over a thriving 'Famous Chocolate Maker' and they say jobs will be safe, don't make me laugh. Every company Kraft have taken over the employee's have lost their jobs and all the work has gone to Eastern Europe because it's cheaper to produce the same product although I don't know about the quality.

I'm sick to the stomach the way this Country has been sold out to the highest bidder by this gutless government.

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Re: CHOCOLATE!!

Postby Trumpetmaster » Tue Feb 02, 2010 11:58 am

lliam wrote:I suppose ya'll know about Kraft taking over Cadbury's? This is a sad day in our history. We British are the softest touch on the Globe and the Banks are even worse they let Kraft borrow 7 Billion £'s to make the deal.

So, now we've got a company who's in debt for 7 Billion £'s who've taken over a thriving 'Famous Chocolate Maker' and they say jobs will be safe, don't make me laugh. Every company Kraft have taken over the employee's have lost their jobs and all the work has gone to Eastern Europe because it's cheaper to produce the same product although I don't know about the quality.

I'm sick to the stomach the way this Country has been sold out to the highest bidder by this gutless government.

:evil:



I love Cadbury Chocolates...
KRAFT.... ugh....
Hope the quality does not suffer.... :(
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Re: CHOCOLATE!!

Postby jamiebk » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:22 pm

They better not change the caramel eggs.... :curse:

So it goes lliam. Look around the US corporate landscape and you will find hundreds if not thousands of similar situations. Big companies swallow small or ailing ones. Such is Capitalism. Look at all the "names" that have disappeared over the years.
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Re: CHOCOLATE!!

Postby Giant Communist Robot » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:13 pm

I'm sick to the stomach the way this Country has been sold out to the highest bidder by this gutless government.


I've heard similar comments before; notably when the Japanese decided to buy Los Angeles. I don't think the gutless government would be doing Cadbury any favors by not allowing the best offer.
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Re: CHOCOLATE!!

Postby Shapley » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:22 pm

To the best of my knowledge, Kraft hasn't changed the Toblerone. I think they are more interested in acquiring the marketing & distribution network to give them inroads into more foreign markets. Hershey had been looking at Cadbury, but wasn't able to put together a competitive bid to the one offered by Kraft.
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Re: CHOCOLATE!!

Postby lliam » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:41 pm

What gets me angry is, we the taxpayer had to bail out the Banks now they're loaning out our money to buy our very, very successful Chocolate firm of over 100yrs in the business and also giving themselves huge bonuses .
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Re: CHOCOLATE!!

Postby Trumpetmaster » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:43 pm

lliam wrote:What gets me angry is, we the taxpayer had to bail out the Banks now they're loaning out our money to buy our very, very successful Chocolate firm of over 100yrs in the business and also giving themselves huge bonuses .



this sounds familiar..... understand your frustration......

and yes... they better NOT mess with the Cadbury Caramel Eggs.... :curse:
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Re: CHOCOLATE!!

Postby Haggis@wk » Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:49 pm

What was the chocolate in the British commercial where the thief breaks in and leave by the woman's bed? I always thought that was kind of creepy.
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Re: CHOCOLATE!!

Postby dai bread » Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:23 pm

Cadbury chocolate isn't what it was. When it was made in Dunedin, it was good stuff. Now much of it is made in Australia and it's not as good. The blocks are smaller too. Same price, though. I gave the Tenors Whittakers chocolate when they were here. It's made in Christchurch, and is tastier and more chocolatey than Cadbury. It has more cocoa mass and its blocks are still the old sizes.
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