dai bread wrote:
Thanks, Haggis, for a very illuminating post. (A lamp post?
I think we expect too much when we ask mainstream Muslims to deal with the radicals. I don't recall the Catholics doing much about the IRA, and Paisley's church kept such a low profile that I don't even know which one it is. I'm still amazed that that man wasn't defrocked.
Thanks, I try not to get too "preachy" sometimes and I probably succeed only about 50% of the time.
Qutb wrote two books that I can recommend to get an understanding where his brand of sociopolitical ideology came from.
The first is "Social Justice in Islam"
It's a short read (I almost said it's an "easy" read...BIG mistake) and your library might have it, mine does. I have my own copy. While reading it I was reminded over and over again how much like Marx he sounded. Sweeping generalities based on almost no evidence. His prejudices and bigotry is very apparent, especially towards women. He never married because he couldn't find an appropriately docile woman of sufficient "moral purity and discretion."
Like most of his kind he was a raving bigot and frequently commented on blacks and women in the U.S.
The main book to read is "Milestones"
He wrote it in prison and it encapsulates perfectly what he thought had to be done to return the Muslim world to the 7th Century. You can find it online at YoungMuslims
One of the most common English language editions of Milestones was published by The Mother Mosque Foundation in 1981. It looks like an oversized pamphlet.
It's full of typos and has no index, no notes, no introduction to tell you who the author is. No doubt this is in part because "Milestones"
was written in prison and smuggled out, and also because it was written for the "vanguard" of the revival of Islam rather than average Muslims (never mind non-Muslims). Be that as it may, although only 160 pages, non-Islamist readers may find it the lonnnggggest 160 pages they've ever read.
Remember, at the time he wrote this he was convinced that Islam had totally lost it's way. It "had been extinct for a few centuries" was how he put it.
... the Muslim community has long ago vanished from existence ... we can say that the Muslim community has been extinct for a few centuries, for this Muslim community does not denote the name of a land in which Islam resides, nor is it a people whose forefathers lived under the Islamic system at some earlier time. It is the name of a group of people whose manners, ideas and concepts, rules and regulations, values and criteria, are all derived from the Islamic source. The Muslim community with these characteristics vanished at the moment the laws of God became suspended on earth.
I earlier mentioned Jahiliyya, or “ignorance of divine guidance"
Our whole environment, people's beliefs and ideas, habits and art, rules and laws -- is Jahiliyyah, even to the extent that what we consider to be Islamic culture, Islamic sources, Islamic philosophy and Islamic thought are also constructs of Jahiliyyah!
This is key to what we are seeing in Iraq with Muslim on Muslim violence. The Qaedists don't consider the Muslims they are killing to BE Muslims. Those Muslims lost their way and killing them is not a sin.
.....sigh, sorry, preaching again. I could go on for hours and some probably think I already have. I know Serenity is unhappy with me for being a naysayer.
Read some of his material, think about his thoughts, decide for yourself.
He's the architect of modern radical Islam and most of the Islamic society has maintained a stony silence on his teaching and how they are being applied in the world and I find that most disturbing.
"Where is the Muslim Martin Luther King jr?"
A better question would be, "Where is the Muslim Martin Luther?"
P.S. his brother left Egypt after his execution and taught in Saudi Arabia. He was OBL's teacher.