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3350 American soldiers are dead (our kids)
4 (plus) years of trying
Hardly a "broken promise". Seems like this is enough already.
Shapley wrote:From noontime on Friday until I posted that, there were few, if any posts on the bulletin board. Since posting that, this topic alone has generated over a page of responses. Sometimes you have to light a fire if you want a little heat.
analog wrote:Looks like Bin Laden was right when he predicted American public would tire of the fight. That he's our enemy makes his capitalizing on our apathy a bitter pill to swallow.
Noon Friday til Monday am, the board is quiet, then it picks up.
OperaTenor wrote:analog wrote:Looks like Bin Laden was right when he predicted American public would tire of the fight. That he's our enemy makes his capitalizing on our apathy a bitter pill to swallow.
That our "apathy" is built on the wrong war(invading Iraq) doesn't factor in?
No, it's another hard lesson to be learned from.It's just another case of "you're either with us, or with the terrorists"?
Surrounding Iran on two sides by taking Iraq as well was probably a good military move, looking ahead. But it's turned out an abysmal political one. The move on Afghanistan will probably be judged by its outcome as well.Show of hands, please, how many here thought going into Afghanistan was a mistake?
I single out no one person. Collectively, according to the polls, 69% - 75% of the people of this country supported the war in Iraq at the outset, swept up in the passion of the moment, supposedly. The Resolution authorizing the action was supported by a similar percentage of the Congress, about 65% of the House and about 75% of the Senate. Now that the consequences of that vote are coming to fruition, and I will acknowledge that it has been a difficult pregnancy, many of those swept up in the passion of the moment are having second thoughts, and the desire to abort is growing in popularity. As I said to Jamie, I find it telling that the move to abort the war comes largely from the same political party that supports the 'right' to abort fetii.
Shapley wrote:I think the problem with understanding my point is that people look at abortion, the war, etc., as a seperate issues rather than as symptoms of a single issue - a national attitude toward responsibility, duty, and life in general.
OperaTenor wrote:Just like recent administrations have aborted our commitment to the Great Society?
Shapley wrote:We created an obligation, assumed a debt, and that obligation has to be honoured, the debt has to be paid.
I didn't say you singled out anyone. In fact, I said just the opposite, that you were making very broad accusations, with nothing to back them up. And the connection you're making between those who oppose the war and those who support freedom of choice is simply demonizing those who disagree with you.
I'm not saying you're nuts, but I am saying you're wrong.
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