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Giant Communist Robot wrote:Government subsidies, quotas, and regulations have produced some distortions in the market that make it difficult to find a good response to the food crisis. Better to do away with these. Many countries tax imported food also. Just makes it worse.
I know some feel its unethical to turn food into fuel, but how about taxing food? Lets see which countries do the most for people now.
jamiebk wrote:I think I'd rather be warm with a full belly, than cold and hungry.
barfle wrote:The part of the equation that seems to be missing is the nitrate fertilizer energy content. That was discussed earlier, and we know that the fertilizer plants use a lot of energy, which is typically from imported petroleum.
If the true costs of corn-to-ethanol were made clear, I think we'd drop the idea as being uneconomical, particularly when it comes to corn.
I don't think it's unethical to turn food into fuel (which is what our bodies do every day)
If the true costs of corn-to-ethanol were made clear, I think we'd drop the idea as being uneconomical
Giant Communist Robot wrote:Are these things really the same? I don't care to argue the point beyond this reply, but using food to produce ethanol seems different than feeding people.
Giant Communist Robot wrote:One can always depend on Barfle to take the logical/technical approach, but here it misses a point: ethanol is about making money for some people, not about saving money for others.
Giant Communist Robot wrote:I recently read a book about honey. The way imports and exports work truly inferior stuff gets exported in bulk from China to places like Australia and Canada. There it can be bottled and labeled as "Product of Canada" or wherever. Now I have serious doubts about whether the jar of honey at the store is even honey. The labels don't tell you the whole story.
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