North Carolina

[shostakovich]

Since there are some North Carolinians on board, I wanted to share something I read today in an art history book. English educated William Byrd II (1674-1744) led a surveying expedition in 1728 to determine the boundary between N. Carolina and Virginia. He was a Virginian, and referred to N.C. as "Lubberland".<P>"While Byrd portrayed Virginia as a biblical paradise, Lubberland was a virtual wilderness, where oafish, 'indolent wretches' lived in close proximity to cattle and hogs and 'where there is neither church, chapel, mosque, synagogue, or any other place of public worship of any sect or religion whatsoever. ------- a citizen here is counted extravagant if he has ambition enough to aspire to a brick chimney.'"<P> WELL!!! I doubt this odd Byrd is any relation to the composer, William Byrd, who died in 1623. I encourage search engine experts to check this out.<P>But just to include a little musical talk in here, let me suggest trying some Byrd. He wrote primarily for Harpsichord and organ. For those, like myself, who like big sound, try Gordon Jacob's William Byrd Suite or Orff's Entrata after a Theme by William Byrd. <BR>Shos

[BenMurphy6]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> a virtual wilderness, where oafish, 'indolent wretches' lived in close proximity to cattle and hogs <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>that's still not far from the truth <P>it's nice to hear that the ol' "rip van winkle state" has getting such good press for so long.. <P>as a side note, last i heard, the border between NC and VA at a lake north of raleigh is still disputed. funny, the things they still argue over, eh?

[brickroot]

Well are you aware why North and South Carolina split?

[shostakovich]

I'm not. Go for it, brickroot.<BR>Shos

[oljonb]

Since there are some North Carolinians on board, I wanted to share something I read today in an art history book. English educated William Byrd II (1674-1744) led a surveying expedition in 1728 to determine the boundary between N. Carolina and Virginia. He was a Virginian, and referred to N.C. as "Lubberland".<P>"While Byrd portrayed Virginia as a biblical paradise, Lubberland was a virtual wilderness, where oafish, 'indolent wretches' lived in close proximity to cattle and hogs and 'where there is neither church, chapel, mosque, synagogue, or any other place of public worship of any sect or religion whatsoever. ------- a citizen here is counted extravagant if he has ambition enough to aspire to a brick chimney.'"<P> WELL!!! I doubt this odd Byrd is any relation to the composer, William Byrd, who died in 1623. I encourage search engine experts to check this out.<P>But just to include a little musical talk in here, let me suggest trying some Byrd. He wrote primarily for Harpsichord and organ. For those, like myself, who like big sound, try Gordon Jacob's William Byrd Suite or Orff's Entrata after a Theme by William Byrd. <BR>Shos

Where on earth did you come up with "Entrata after a Theme by WIlliam Byrd"? I encountered this about 50 years ago on an LP "Scherchen contucts Music for Multiple Orchestras" with the Vienna State Opera Orchestra. I have not encountered it elsewhere. I finally located a clean copy from a man in Cheyenne, Wyoming and transfered it to CD. I have sent copies to a couple of Public Radio music hosts on stations we listen to in our area. Both were as impressed by it as I. We all wonder why it has been dropped from the catalog and concert programming. What can you tell me about your association with the piece?

[Shapley]

Hello, oljonb. Welcome to the B.com BB!

Shos has been silent of late but, hopefully, he will see your post and respond.

V/R
Shapley

P.S.: It looks the work can be found here.

[jamiebk]

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[Trumpetmaster]

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[Shapley]

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[shostakovich]

Since there are some North Carolinians on board, I wanted to share something I read today in an art history book. English educated William Byrd II (1674-1744) led a surveying expedition in 1728 to determine the boundary between N. Carolina and Virginia. He was a Virginian, and referred to N.C. as "Lubberland".<P>"While Byrd portrayed Virginia as a biblical paradise, Lubberland was a virtual wilderness, where oafish, 'indolent wretches' lived in close proximity to cattle and hogs and 'where there is neither church, chapel, mosque, synagogue, or any other place of public worship of any sect or religion whatsoever. ------- a citizen here is counted extravagant if he has ambition enough to aspire to a brick chimney.'"<P> WELL!!! I doubt this odd Byrd is any relation to the composer, William Byrd, who died in 1623. I encourage search engine experts to check this out.<P>But just to include a little musical talk in here, let me suggest trying some Byrd. He wrote primarily for Harpsichord and organ. For those, like myself, who like big sound, try Gordon Jacob's William Byrd Suite or Orff's Entrata after a Theme by William Byrd. <BR>Shos

Where on earth did you come up with "Entrata after a Theme by WIlliam Byrd"? I encountered this about 50 years ago on an LP "Scherchen contucts Music for Multiple Orchestras" with the Vienna State Opera Orchestra. I have not encountered it elsewhere. I finally located a clean copy from a man in Cheyenne, Wyoming and transfered it to CD. I have sent copies to a couple of Public Radio music hosts on stations we listen to in our area. Both were as impressed by it as I. We all wonder why it has been dropped from the catalog and concert programming. What can you tell me about your association with the piece?

Hi oljonb, if you are still on board. I was on "sabbatical" when your post came out. I'm back, but not so heavily invested as I used to be. Old age is slowing me down. We seem to have a shared experience in the Scherchen record. I'm glad you tried to spread the gospel of the Entrata. The only thing I can add is that it's based on Byrd's The Bells, which also is the basis for one of the sections in the Gordon Jacob work. Hope you get to read this.
Shos