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OperaTenor wrote: (Note to myself: If McCain is elected, buy gold ingots and install bars on the windows.)
I am a Democrat, it’s no secret. I am a museum-quality Democrat, Keillor said. “Last night I spent my time crouched in a fetal position, rolling around and moaning in the dark.”
I’m trying to organize support for a constitutional amendment to deny voting rights to born-again Christians, Keillor smirked. “I feel if your citizenship is in Heaven, like a born again Christian’s is, you should give up your citizenship. Sorry, but this is my new cause. If born again Christians are allowed to vote in this country, then why not Canadians?”
Haggis@wk wrote:I wonder what he's going to say this November when McCain wins? That kind of hatred can't be good for his blood pressure.
piqaboo wrote:If Shap wrote that about Obama being elected, I dont think you'd have called it hatred, or even given it a second thought.
jamiebk wrote:Haggis@wk wrote:I wonder what he's going to say this November when McCain wins? That kind of hatred can't be good for his blood pressure.
First...It won't happen....second, I think you forget that Keilor is a sharp witted humorist. Let's not take these commnets for anything other than what they were intended...sharp satire and political humor
From Leonard Pitts:
Pitts: The problem with satire
Leonard Pitts Jr., THE MIAMI HERALD
Thursday, July 17, 2008
'I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled ...'
— Jonathan Swift, 'A Modest Proposal, 1729'
Satire is tricky.
It makes its point by exaggerating wildly with a straight face. In inflating a thing beyond all common sense or propriety, it seeks to render inconsistencies and hypocrisies glaringly apparent. Satire seeks truth in the ridiculous. For illustration, see any given episode of "The Colbert Report."
What makes satire difficult is that sometimes, people don't realize they are being had. Jonathan Swift's "Modest Proposal," for instance, had some convinced he wanted to eat babies; they didn't realize he was actually attacking people's blithe unconcern with the plight of the poor. For that matter, when "All in the Family" came along two and a half centuries later, some folks saw Archie as the soul of reason.
I have experience in this. Some years back, I satirized a study that said many Americans think news media routinely get the facts wrong. In a column "defending" media accuracy, I made misstatements so grandiose — Bob Hope was host of the "Tonight Show"; Quincy Jones was his bandleader — I thought no one could miss my point.
Silly me. I got hundreds of e-mails "correcting" my supposed errors.
So I feel the New Yorker's pain. The magazine is under fire for a cover illustration depicting Barack Obama in the Oval Office wearing a turban, bumping fists with his wife Michelle, who wears an Afro, fatigues and has an assault rifle slung over her shoulder. Osama bin Laden watches from a portrait on the wall. An American flag burns in the fireplace.
The Obama and McCain campaigns have pronounced the cover offensive. There have been calls for a boycott.
Me, I like the cover. It strikes me as an incisive comment on the fear mongering that has attended Obama's run for the presidency. Still, I understand why it is incendiary: Some of us will take it seriously.
To be effective, satire needs a situation it can inflate into ridiculousness. But the hysteria surrounding Obama has nowhere to go; it is already ridiculous. In just the last few days, we've had Jesse Jackson threatening to castrate him and John McLaughlin calling him an "Oreo."
Add to that the whispers about Obama's supposed Muslim heritage (not that there's anything wrong with that), the "terrorist" implications of bumping fists, and Michelle Obama's purported use of the term "whitey" (a word no black person has uttered since "The Jeffersons" went off the air in 1985) and it's clear that "ridiculous" has become our default status. What once were punch lines now are headlines.
So, as absurd, as over the top, as utterly outlandish as the New Yorker image strikes the more sophisticated among us, there is a large fringe out there for whom it will represent nothing more or less than the sum of their fears.
Indeed, as I sat down to write these words, there beeped into my mailbox an e-mail with this subject line: "WOW, The New Yorker got it exactly right, for once." Said without a trace of irony.
But increasingly, that's who we are in this country: ignorant, irony-impaired and petrified. So maybe we should just cancel the campaign and ask that the last intelligent person turn off the lights when he or she leaves. And bring the last book with you. Nobody here will need it.
Somewhere between the stained blue dress and the vice president shooting a guy in the face, between Swift Boat lies and "war on terra" alibis, the absurd became the ordinary, facts became optional and satire became superfluous.
We are beyond satire, my friends. These days, there's nothing more ridiculous than the truth.
piqaboo wrote:haggis, i think the only person Garrison K hates is himself.
but just for the sake of argument:
where do you get 'hatred' from gold ingots and barred windows? I get 'fear'.
If Shap wrote that about Obama being elected, I dont think you'd have called it hatred, or even given it a second thought.
Cutting out healthcare for one-third of the population -- the folks with Bush-Cheney bumper stickers, who still believe the man is doing a heckuva job -- will save enough money to pay off the national debt, not a bad legacy for Republicans. As Scrooge said, let them die and reduce the surplus population. In return, we can offer them a reduction in the estate tax. All in favor, blow your nose.
Selma in Sandy Eggo wrote:But...but... I wanna go live in Lake Wobegon, where all the women are beautiful, all the men are handsome, and all the children are above average... :whine:
piqaboo wrote:haggis, i think the only person Garrison K hates is himself. ......
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