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dai bread wrote:Another example of why I think that Russia under Vladimir Putin is looking distinctly old-fashioned.
OperaTenor wrote:Of course, the fact Russia is being poked in the side with a sharp stick, in the form of trying to get Georgia to join NATO, has nothing to do with it, either.
Not saying I approve of the action, just applying a little Atticus Principle to it.
Russia's Power Play
Of course, like the US has any moral authority anymore.....
OperaTenor wrote:Of course, like the US has any moral authority anymore.....
OperaTenor wrote:When we started torturing people.
Haggis@wk wrote:The U.S. involvement in NATO has run its course and we should pull out and terminate any alliances in Europe. Since the fall of the Berlin Wall NATO has become an “entangling alliance” of the sort that George Washington warned us against, and remaining in NATO virtually guarantees our involvement in any bickering territorial disputes in Europe.
Shapley wrote:OperaTenor wrote:When we started torturing people.
And when was that?
OperaTenor wrote:Tell you what. Why don't you go volunteer to be waterboarded, then convince me it isn't torture. Until then, I don't really want to hear it.
Shapley wrote:OperaTenor wrote:Tell you what. Why don't you go volunteer to be waterboarded, then convince me it isn't torture. Until then, I don't really want to hear it.
I didn't ask how you defined torture, I asked when we started it. I can assure you, President Bush and Vice President Cheney did not invent the technique.
GreatCarouser wrote:And that fact some how absolves them from condoning and encouraging its use? I wonder how a defendant in a court would fare in a jury trial using that defense?
BigJon@Work wrote:I can't find the quote in print, but I heard it on the radio yesterday. George Bush saying something like, “We will let the Russians be judged by the court of world public opinions.” I almost fell out of my car door. What a hypocrite.
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