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our children’s children’s children will pay for our excesses.
Adam was but human--this explains it all. He did not want the apple for the apple's sake, he wanted it only because it was forbidden. The mistake was in not forbidding the serpent; then he would have eaten the serpent.
- Pudd'nhead Wilson
analog wrote: They'll look back at us as we do Adam and Eve
Last night Mr Obama gave a strong signal that he would remove the most provocative passages from the Bill.
Shapley wrote:Haggis@wk wrote:The bill has “buy America” clauses that had both Canada and the EU in turmoil.
Sorry? I thought Canada was America...
Support for the economic recovery plan working its way through Congress has fallen again this week. For the first time, a plurality of voters nationwide oppose the $800-billion-plus plan.
“Many Americans simply accept the notion that no matter how bad things are, Congress could make them worse. Most voters currently rate Congress’ performance as poor, and most expect that lobbyists will have more influence on the legislation than voters or the president. When reacting to the economic downturn, 46% of Americans remain more concerned that the government will do too much while 41% worry it will do too little.”
Haggis@wk wrote:The good news is president Obama, unlike former president Bush, is joined at the hip with polls like these and while it’s unlikely he will decide to throw Pelosi’s bill to the wolves I think it is possible that he will start denouncing some of the more egregious pork.
“President Obama’s economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday. CBO, the official scorekeepers for legislation, said the House and Senate bills will help in the short term but result in so much government debt that within a few years they would crowd out private investment, actually leading to a lower Gross Domestic Product over the next 10 years than if the government had done nothing.”
Shapley wrote:This does not bode well for the future, IMHO.
jamiebk wrote:Shapley wrote:This does not bode well for the future, IMHO.
Is there anything about this economic mess that Obama inherited that DOES bode well? The condition that we are in right now is totally FUBAR.
End the Practice of Writing Legislation Behind Closed Doors: As president, Barack Obama will restore the American people’s trust in their government by making government more open and transparent. Obama will work to reform congressional rules to require all legislative sessions, including committee mark-ups and conference committees, to be conducted in public. By making these practices public, the American people will be able to hold their leaders accountable for wasteful spending and lawmakers won’t be able to slip favors for lobbyists into bills at the last minute.
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