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Shapley wrote:Sen. Graham Blasts Obama On Lack Of Leadership
According to Graham, Obama is having televised lunches and writing editorials, but is not involving himself in negotiations over the stimulus bill.
I'd say it is too early for me to chime on his leadership skills. We knew going in that he lacked experience, but he may be a quick study. This is his first test. If the stimulus bill fails, it will reflect poorly on him, and he will have to work hard to regain credibility as a leader. If he salvages it, it will give him credibility as a leader. The world is watching.
It's WAY TOO EARLY for anyone to be making these judgements..........
Giant Communist Robot wrote:I suspect many find it hard to criticize his performance and rather than say something good will say its too early.
You have no opinion on his cabinet choices? No feeling one way or another about any of them? What about the stimulus package? Can't tell one way or another how look at it? What about those two cabinet choices who withdrew because of tax reasons? How long to wait before forming an opinion about that? The Al-Jazeer interview? Too soon for that?
Giant Communist Robot wrote:In reading Obama's book, "Dreams of my father," I gathered this is a guy with a lot of experience dealing with different personalities with differing agendas. He's practical. I hope this experience gives him skill. By some strange chance, he may be the best qualified for these challenges we now see.
Giant Communist Robot wrote:I don't wish to seem combative, Shapley, but you have toe'd the party line in the past so much it seems unlikey you would have an objective opinion about Obama's leadership performance. Say something good about him and maybe I'll believe you!
Giant Communist Robot wrote: This objectivity allowed millions of smokers to feel it was ok to continue smoking, in spite of the evidence.
Giant Communist Robot wrote:For some reason I can't remember the '60s.
Haggis@wk wrote:I maintained from the very beginning that he was lying to the American electorate. He promised things that he never intended to fulfill. For instance, twice in the last two weeks he’s violated his campaign promise -- the "Sunlight Before Signing" pledge – when he said he would not sign any non-emergency bills without offering the public five days to review and comment on the legislation.
Giant Communist Robot wrote:Do you honestly know anyone who smoked but didn't think it was a hazard?
For some reason I can't remember the '60s.
Obama has been routinely late to events and news conferences, including the ones at which he reversed Bush's orders. This has led to an already familiar refrain from the Obama camp: "He's running late."
The president was nearly 30 minutes late Wednesday for the ceremony at which he signed a bill to expand children's health care. He was 10 minutes late Thursday to a memo signing at the Energy Department.
Even before the inauguration, Obama wasn't a punctual sort; he arrived late to a Jan. 8 news conference on the economy that was aired live by broadcast and cable networks.
When it comes to following the clock, Obama closely resembles Bill Clinton, who was famously late to events when he was president. By contrast, Bush despised being late and punctual to a fault. He set the tone early in his presidency -- he arrived at the Capitol five minutes early for his inauguration.
"To me, being tardy, it's got to be one of two things," said presidential historian Doug Wead, who advised both Bush and his father, George H.W. Bush. "Bad organization that can be corrected, or it's arrogance. It sounds to me like this is arrogance."
Mark Lindsay, a Democratic consultant and former senior White House adviser to Bill Clinton, disagreed, explaining that Clinton was late sometimes because he was making accommodations for logistics or average citizens.
I think he seems to be a smart guy
I maintained from the very beginning that he was lying to the American electorate.
Giant Communist Robot wrote:[I'd say he wasn't specific about his plans during the campaign, and if he chooses different plans than those he proposed, maybe there's some leeway there. Lying means these plans that are different are the ones he always intended. Can't be proved, but one can suspect. I suspect all politicians are liars.
You're probably right, most politicians are likely dishonest
Haggis@wk wrote:Do you honestly know anyone who smoked but didn't think it was a hazard? I sure don't. I started smoking in the early '60s and I always knew it was a hazard.
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