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3 Strange things about Chess

Postby Giant Communist Robot » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:06 pm

1. Time is discrete.

What's really weird about this is that you may have different measures of time than your opponent, uh, simultaneously.

2. The shortest route between two points is not always exclusively a straight line.

First time weirdness, now space.

3. Time, space, and material are transmutable.

I love this one.
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Re: 3 Strange things about Chess

Postby Shapley » Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:31 pm

I guess I've never gotten so thoroughly into my Chess games to make any of those observations.
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Re: 3 Strange things about Chess

Postby bloria » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:38 am

How long does it take to be a master chess player? I'm a new player. I play 3-5 games a day (practice with friends, online, etc), I read chess books, and I'm in my school chess club. Do you think I could imrpove enough to enter a national tournament later in the year?
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Re: 3 Strange things about Chess

Postby Shapley » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:32 am

Hello, Bloria!

Welcome to the B.com BB!

I suppose it's a matter of your ability to grasp the strategies involved. The rules are simple enough, and the books will teach you some of the time-tested strategies. The real test would be your own natural ability to guage the situation and think ahead of your opponent. Some people seem to have a knack for such things.

I'm sure the skill can be learned, but probably not in time to perform satisfactorily this year.

Good luck!

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Re: 3 Strange things about Chess

Postby piqaboo » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:44 pm

I wonder if Great Carouser is paying attention?
I think he's been coaching school chess.
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Re: 3 Strange things about Chess

Postby Giant Communist Robot » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:42 pm

bloria wrote:How long does it take to be a master chess player? .... Do you think I could imrpove enough to enter a national tournament later in the year?

I think the length of time depends on how maniacal your desire to reach master is. And the smarter you are, the better. Without some kind of intelligent spark to set you on fire---boy, I love this poetry--you'll not make it.

Tournaments have classes! Uh, I mean players classed by ability, so even a person of average strength may enter and will play against others of similar strength.
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Re: 3 Strange things about Chess

Postby GreatCarouser » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:18 pm

piqaboo wrote:I wonder if Great Carouser is paying attention?
I think he's been coaching school chess.


I am...I am. The answer to your question varies, Bloria. A lot depends on natural talent. Much can be learned but the execution and the understandings of the mechanics (read evaluation) of positions as well as the proper plans to employ are the real marks of the great masters.

Take this game snippet as a simple example:
1.e4 e5
2.Nf3 d6
3.d4 Bg4?!
4.de5! Bf3
5.Qf3 de5
6.Bc4 Nf6?

Black should try 6.... Qf6 here...but he plays the natural move that many who are unfamiliar with this classic would do under these circumstances. The fact that Qf6 is 'best' for black under the circumstances is the reason why 3....Bg4 gets a question mark...it doesn't lose material...it just forces black to unnaturally deploy his pieces after giving up the two bishops in a semi open position to White. He is probably close to losing but it takes a great master to show why.

If you are unfamiliar with this game you might take a little time to try to figure out White's next move(s) and his reasoning. Many players would justify black's last move...what would you do?
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