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Mark Sanford

Postby Giant Communist Robot » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:12 am

...is a reminder to us that we are flawed creatures. At least he recognizes this within himself.
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Re: Mark Sanford

Postby Shapley » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:46 am

This is why we are a nation of laws, not of men. The fortunes of men rise and fall, like the tide, but the law should be an anchor against the changes of men's fortune. Too many of us put our faith in flawed men, and bitter disappointment is the usual result. (Obamamaniacs, take note!)
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Re: Mark Sanford

Postby jamiebk » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:58 am

Shapley wrote:This is why we are a nation of laws, not of men. The fortunes of men rise and fall, like the tide, but the law should be an anchor against the changes of men's fortune. Too many of us put our faith in flawed men, and bitter disappointment is the usual result. (Obamamaniacs, take note!)


Keep in mind that men (meaning..people/mankind) wrote the laws...ergo, the laws are flawed as well.
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Re: Mark Sanford

Postby Shapley » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:12 am

jamiebk wrote:Keep in mind that men (meaning..people/mankind) wrote the laws...ergo, the laws are flawed as well.


True, but laws can be changed and adapted. They are usually the result of decades or even centuries of experience and observation of human nature, and what helps civilization and what harms it. Hastily prepared laws usually fall by the wayside, but the laws that form the basic foundation of civilization are ignored at peril.
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Re: Mark Sanford

Postby jamiebk » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:32 pm

Shapley wrote:
jamiebk wrote:Keep in mind that men (meaning..people/mankind) wrote the laws...ergo, the laws are flawed as well.


True, but laws can be changed and adapted. They are usually the result of decades or even centuries of experience and observation of human nature, and what helps civilization and what harms it. Hastily prepared laws usually fall by the wayside, but the laws that form the basic foundation of civilization are ignored at peril.


People change too. Just look at the Klingons. After years of being a warrier race, they are now settling into peaceful society. :mrgreen:
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Re: Mark Sanford

Postby Shapley » Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:45 pm

Are they, or is it just part of a brilliant deception, to put us off our guard...
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Re: Mark Sanford

Postby Schmeelkie » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:26 am

Yeah - but did you notice the enthusiasm they had for fighting in the end of the DS9 series against the changelings? They were like, there's a war on? Cool!! Sign us up!!!

I don't care if elected officials have affairs, its just when they spend taxpayers money to do it... apparently at least one of his flights to Argentina was footed by taxpayers. I sympathize with the residents of SC. Our (NY) governor (Eliot Spitzer) resigned after his dalliences - but he was paying prostitutes (illegal), so real good reason to get out. Too bad too, seemed like he might have done good things for NY.
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Re: Mark Sanford

Postby Shapley » Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:30 am

"A man who cannot be trusted in small matters should not be trusted with great ones." - Confucius -
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Re: Mark Sanford

Postby Giant Communist Robot » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:24 pm

Spitzer seemed cornered and somewhat combative, while Sanford appears confused.
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