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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby TuneGirl » Wed Feb 19, 2003 8:02 pm

Island should be tropical, music to be Ravel's Bolero, a package of Oreos and a good book!
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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby BenMurphy6 » Wed Feb 19, 2003 9:08 pm

on anything; i've tried it. you don't really lose clarity going to mp3; if anything, i've noticed that you lose a little bit of bass extension, which isn't too bad. <P>btw, don't knock computer speakers ;) . the only real barrier to getting excellent sound out of a pc is the sound card, and there are some very high quality sound cards for reasonable prices, that offer all of the decoding options you can get out of a receiver. all you need then is a good amp. <A HREF="http://www.videologic.com/Products/Product.asp?Product=VL-60402" TARGET=_blank>here are the speakers i use.</A> i got my complete setup (sound card, speakers, etc) for about $400; a lot less than the typical home theater system and equal in sound to a much more expensive system. the computer is really an ideal setup for this sort of thing.<p>[ 02-19-2003: Message edited by: BenMurphy6 ]
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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby thornhill » Wed Feb 19, 2003 9:29 pm

BenMurphy6,<P>Maybe I have sensitive ears, but I never have a problem distinguishing MP3 from redbook. The sound always strikes me as being thin and having a reduced sound-stage. There is also a noticeable drop in warmth and brightness. <P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>and there are some very high quality sound cards for reasonable prices <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No doubt, but if you're going to use your computer for CD audio and you're willing to spend a lot of money on a sound card/computer speakers, you might as well spend a little more and buy a stereo reciever and put together a little audio system.<p>[ 02-19-2003: Message edited by: thornhill ]
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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby BenMurphy6 » Wed Feb 19, 2003 9:55 pm

do you know which encoder was used for the mp3's you've heard? it makes all the difference. also the bitrate is a large factor; if you're encoding at 96 kbps as opposed to 256 kbps (about a quarter of the size of cd audio) the difference in fidelity is large. i have pretty good ears and although i don't deny the difference, i'm totally satisfied given the amount of music that can be stored on one disc. i guess it comes down to what you're willing to put up with.<P>my point with the computer speakers is that currently you can get equal quality for less money. you're not going to be able to match a multi-thousand dollar audiophile system but certainly the typical home setup is well within reach. so why not spend a little less and you've got an equivalent audio system?
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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby thornhill » Wed Feb 19, 2003 10:03 pm

BenMurphy6,<P>LAME encoder.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>my point with the computer speakers is that currently you can get equal quality for less money. you're not going to be able to match a multi-thousand dollar audiophile system but certainly the typical home setup is well within reach. so why not spend a little less and you've got an equivalent audio system? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I'm not talking about "multi-thousand", but about $600 - $800.
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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby BenMurphy6 » Wed Feb 19, 2003 10:32 pm

the lame encoder is one of the better ones. then again my setup (actually a 4.1 variant of the one i linked to) tends to accentuate brightness and provides pretty good staging. come to think of it, that's probably why mp3's sound so darn good on them..<P>as far as a $600-$800 system, my point is why not spend, say, $450-$500 and get the same sound? <P>anyway, that's that. i reckon we'll just have to agree to disagree :p
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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby thornhill » Wed Feb 19, 2003 10:44 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> as far as a $600-$800 system, my point is why not spend, say, $450-$500 and get the same sound? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>For various reason, such as the number of input and output jacks, I rather spend a few hundred more to have a receiver.
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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby dai bread 1 » Wed Feb 19, 2003 10:58 pm

There are some very good computer speakers around now, but I prefer headphones. Top-notch ones can be had for about USD 200.<BR>You can then crank up the sound to suit yourself.<BR>You need a decent sound card too, but they're available. The rig I've got makes me sorely tempted to get broadband, but if I did it would cost me about NZD 8 per hour to listen to BR. The snippets I can get on a 64kbps feed are extremely tasty! :)
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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby thornhill » Wed Feb 19, 2003 11:16 pm

don't get me started on headphones...
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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby BenMurphy6 » Wed Feb 19, 2003 11:38 pm

[bait]headphones are my favorite!!1[/bait]<P>j/k thorny. btw, i like to have lots of inputs and outputs too. wiring is fun.
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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby treebeau » Thu Feb 20, 2003 9:22 am

Mr. Bread never mentioned if there would be AC electricity on the island, but I doubt that's going to be the case. So, running your home stereo would be out of the question. That leaves you with a CD player like a Walkman and headphones. Given that, maybe you'd be ok with MP3 encoded CDs.<BR> :) <P>Regards,<BR>Tim B.<P>P.S. Mr. Bread, this was a fun topic. Please post another today. In other words, give us this dai our dai bread.<BR>(groans expected)
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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby barfle » Thu Feb 20, 2003 10:11 am

UuuuuhhhhhHHHHHHH!<BR> :p
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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby EJA » Thu Feb 20, 2003 12:36 pm

So, dai bread <B>1</B>, did we forget our password, or what? If so, e-mail the moderators and they'll reset your old account ;)
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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby dai bread » Thu Feb 20, 2003 6:15 pm

Thanks Treebeau. I'm glad you liked it. As I said at the start, an oldie but a goodie and I'm glad to see the BB active on it. And yes, groans herewith!!<P>EJA, you surprised me, because I did actually forget my password when I went to make that post as dai bread 1, and I wondered how you knew that. However the 1 is used because when I wanted to use my computer at work to log on, BR wanted a new login.<BR> :)
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Re: Desert Island Discs

Postby navneeth » Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:04 am

TuneGirl wrote:Island should be tropical, music to be Ravel's Bolero, a package of Oreos and a good book!
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:rofl: I was actually thinking about that when I opened the thread. I'm not sure if TuneGirl has been listening to B.com in the last three years, but if she has, she would probably change her mind. :D

P.S. Is this a new record for reviving an old thread. Where's the record keeper when you need one?
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Postby Shapley » Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:42 am

I didn't realize Bo Derek had posted on this board. :D
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Postby bignaf » Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:53 pm

it's probably not the record. I think Serenity holds that from reviving this
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Postby Serenity » Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:12 pm

:flex:

I'd take an MP3/video and huge gigabyte capacity player with a solar battery charger. I'd have at least the entire Ring Cycle loaded.


Maybe, if I was able to record naked images of myself on the island ... on a wireless band somebody would pinpoint my location and come rescue me! :barf: :barf:
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Postby Trumpetmaster » Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:24 pm

Serenity wrote::flex:

I'd take an MP3/video and huge gigabyte capacity player with a solar battery charger. I'd have at least the entire Ring Cycle loaded.


Maybe if I was able to record naked images of myself on the island on a wireless band somebody would pinpoint my location and come rescue me! :D :idea:



I'll be right there! :D
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Postby dai bread » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:57 pm

Ain't it wonderful how technology changes in 3 years! Solar battery chargers, DVDs- I wouldn't want to leave!
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