What's your area of living famous for?

[thornhill]

Rendell 2008

[priya978]

I agree entirely with you Brickroot. I don't really care if x-670hg-sgq equals 6327461830%. It's just taking time, and I don't think I'm going to absolutely need to know that to function in the world. <P>Plus talent is not recognized and pushed enough, like you said, too. It's usually, if you have a teacher who you have a good relationship with, and you have talent in that area, they will usually do something for you, tutor you after school, etc.<P>And Bush is a very grudgy, spoiled, do-what-he-wants, and who-cares-if-it's-good-for-the-nation-or-what-anyone-else-thinks kind of person. HRH Nicole, what do you think?

[BenMurphy6]

eugene, that's not the point. i'm saying that if you don't think a broad education is important then you're setting yourself up for problems later on.

[thornhill]

eugene a.,<P>Math isn't about plugging numbers into equations, it's a method/way of thinking. And if you're interested in studying music, a good background in math can be helpful for music theory and composition.

[OperaTenor]

Hey E, we kind of went down this road before when we were going back and forth about music theory. Coming back to haunt you again, isn't it? Yep, I'm afraid Thorny's right, math will help you a lot, and as a musician, in this day and age more than ever, theory is a necessity (that's coming from someone who doesn't have a college degree!)(of course, that doesn't mean I'm not a fart smeller.......uh.....I mean, smart feller ).

[lliam]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by shostakovich:<BR><STRONG>It would be nice to hear from people outside the USA, too. I think our old friend Peter lives not far from the home of Dickens. And it would be nice to hear from Peter (and Clare).<BR>Shos</STRONG><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>=============================================<BR>Hi Guys,<BR> I live in a place called, Darlaston, in the borough of Walsall, in the West Midlands, U.K. Walsall is famous for leather goods, saddles etc, we have a famous author, J.K.Jerome author of 'Three men in a boat' we also have a famous nurse called Sister Dora, (Dorothy Pattison) she was in the same era as Florence Nightingale. There's a statue of her in Walsall Town centre. the surounding areas are famous for, Locks,Yale, Chubb etc.<BR>Lliam. <BR>

[tancred]

Paoli - site of a massacre of Colonial troops by the Redcoats in 1777. They came at night with bayonets fitted and caught the Colonials unawares.<BR>So perish all enemies of King George III!<BR>Just kidding, just kidding...<BR>Tanc

[bignaf]

OT,<BR>you're a fart smeller. LMAO. childish but LMAO><BR>Eugh, don't neglect any part of your education. you need good grades to get into college or music school. just realize that mnusic isn't a profession. you ussually don't make money from music. at least not enough to live. and being good isn't enough you also need luck.<BR>there is a contemp composer called Aron Jay.. don't remember his name. anyway, he's famous and won the pulitzer but he's still scraping to make a living.

[thornhill]

bignaf,<P>Aaron Jay Kernis? I think he's actually doing pretty well. <P>I heard one of his pieces two seasons ago, nearly put the entire audience to sleep.

[bignaf]

Yep, Kernis. who had his birthday yesterday. that's my point he's doing well success-wise but not financially. that is because he doesn't want to accept a teaching position. and I've read that from someone who knows him.

[thornhill]

Huh. Interesting.

[bignaf]

I can see how that'll happen. since commissions don't make a person rich. so i know full well what I'm going into when I'm majoring in "theory and composition".

[priya978]

You're going to become poor and homeless?

[monkeymd2b]

Let's see...I grew up in hawaii - nothing special about that place except the US govt imprisoning the monarch and then taking over (manifest destiny or practice for iraq?)<BR>Then I lived in Eugene, Or...they were supposedly the first city in the US to ever have one way streets<BR>Now I live in New Orleans and there's so much history here that I have only begun to scratch the surface in my quest to learn about my residence. <BR>As for a broad based education, now that I'm in med school, the only good reason I can see for what I've learned in college and high school is so I can have "normal" things to talk about with non medical people. You know, something to use to connect with my patients. And I recall a study that folks who played a musical instrument were better at some aspects of math (fractions). And I hate to admit it but sometimes I too feel that Bush is the hero of the rich men. Most of his "brilliant" plans he announced at the state of the union address would only work for those who had the $$$ (no more double taxing on stocks? Most of the stocks (or whatever) are owned by the wealthy...how does that help the rest of the country - ie the lower 99%? I would like to see a federal law capping malpractice suits and a review board that such suits must pass through to separate frivilous from justified like louisiana has...yikes...could I just have found a reason to stay here?!? But back to the topic as originally posted...

[dai bread 1]

I guess it depends on how famous is famous. My town is where Sir Edmund Hillary lives, and where the America's Cup lives too. If I have to explain either of those, then I guess the fame is only local after all.<P>RE education: The trick is to see the wood for the trees. In my time we were taught to think critically; to look for the b***s***. This doesn't seem to be the case any more.<BR>Here, the Central Government funds State schools on a basis of so much per student, plus extra for schools in poor areas where the parents can't help as much as they can in richer areas. We still complain about the funding though. It's never enough. The system works. We get some right turkeys in positions that you would think required a fairly decent I.Q. Do you guys get academics publishing studies that tell us what we unwashed rabble have known for years?<P>Never mind. If you youngsters know you want a career in music, go for it and don't let anyone put you off. Remember George Bernard Shaw- "My education was interrupted by my schooling".

[shostakovich]

I try to resist political commentary on B.com, but I just can't resist. Speaking of B*** S***, a political speech in general, and the recent state-of-the-union speech in particular, is designed to appeal to a maximum of folk. It is understood that the person making the speech need not believe what he/she says, and is not necessarily bound by the promises or facts. It's called "rhetoric": expressive language designed to persuade, not necessarily sincere. I'm expecting better from Colin Powell next week. I think he is more honorable than others in the administration. 'Nuff said.<BR>Shos<P>Just to tack on a musical note, think Copland's Lincoln Portrait. There are quotes from 4 of his speeches included. I believe he was sincere.

[shostakovich]

OOPS! There was a point to placing the above in this thread involving education. With a good general education, armed with math (for logic), history (for facts), and English (for word meanings), one can filter through a speech and separate the truth from the fiction (at least have a better shot at it).<BR>Shos

[Thalberg]

Franz Liszt, that greatest of pianists, made his students read poetry and literature, see plays, and in general pursue a broad education in the humanities.<P>I couldn't quote you any sources right now, but from what I've read, it seems to be the consensus among the great musicians that a broad education is essential to good musicianship.

[audiogirl]

To anyone who questions the need for whatever course you took: Learn all you can. How do you know that you won't ever use it?<P>And even if you never use it, isn't there some inherent value in just knowing something? Doesn't it enrich your life?

[EJA]

To really understand music, I think you need to know enough math to understand the 12th root of 2 and how to calculate. That takes a substantial mathematical foundation. Hit the books, kids.