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Re: Explain this quote to me, please?

Postby RC » Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:14 pm

Diving! Diving! ;) :roll:
Diving right in here.

At one point, early on, the Supreme Court and Constitution were not intended to dominate law in individual states.

The Federalists began to change this idea a bit. A lot of state constitutions were changed relatively quickly to fall in line with the big one. I find Madison (and Jefferson) to be extremely interesting in this particular respect. From what I've read, he did about 180 degree turn.

It has been along time since I delved into the Federalist Papers but I think the quote has to do with realigning the states constitutions under the federal constitution as supreme law.

That probably sounds weird at first glance but they were intent on learning from other nations mistakes. I'd lay odds on this one. They were talking about centralizing certain authority primarily international trade and military. (scratch, scratch,...I reckon).

Remember what happened after the civil war? Lincoln took this a leap forward.

I do NOT think they envisioned anything like the Patriot Act.
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Re: Explain this quote to me, please?

Postby piqaboo » Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:29 pm

I think, upon further reading, that I am not a Federalist. Thanks anyway, Haggis! :D
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Re: Explain this quote to me, please?

Postby Serenity » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:15 pm

Why don't we just give Iraq our Constitution? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it's worked for over 200 years in the US, and heck, we're not using it anymore.
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Re: Explain this quote to me, please?

Postby Serenity » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:29 pm

You work for the Government if...

You understand the rationalization of an acronym comprised of acronyms.

You can name the project leader of more than 10 projects but can't explain in the simplest terms what they do.

You've sat at the same desk for 3 years, done the same thing for 3 years, but have had 3 different business cards.

The process becomes more important than the product.

You don't see anything wrong with attending a meeting on a subject you know nothing about.

You feel you contributed to the meeting just by being there.

You keep documents on projects that have long been cancelled.

You fly across the country to attend a conference with 100+ people to discuss the fact that the project does not have enough money.

You've sat at the same desk for 4 years and worked for three different agencies.

Your name plate is attached with Velcro.

Your resume is on a diskette in your pocket.

The office symbol on your badge is applied with tape.

When someone asks about what you do for a living, you lie.

You get really excited about a 2% pay raise.

Your biggest loss from a system crash is that you loose your best jokes.

Your supervisor does not have the ability to do your job.

You sit in a cubicle smaller than your bedroom closet.

You think lunch is just a meeting to which you drive.

Fun is when issues are assigned to someone else.

Communication is something your group is having problems with.

You see a good looking person and know it is a visitor.

Free food left over from meetings is your main staple.

It's dark when you drive to and from work.

Weekends are those days your spouse makes you stay home.

Being sick is defined as "can't walk" or "I'm in the hospital".

Art involves a white board.

You're already late on the assignment you just got

You work 200 hours for the $100 performance check and jubilantly say, "Oh wow, thanks!"

Dilbert cartoons hang outside every cube.

Your boss' favorite lines are "when you get a chance", "in you free time", and "I have an opportunity for you".

Your relatives and family describe your job as "works with computers".

Change is the norm.

Nepotism is encouraged.

The only reason you recognize your kids is because their pictures hang in your cube.

You only have makeup for flourescent lighting.

You can name more people that used to work with you than actually work with you.
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Re: Explain this quote to me, please?

Postby sadie » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:22 am

"Why don't we just give Iraq our Constitution? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it's worked for over 200 years in the US, and heck, we're not using it anymore."
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Ha! Very true Serenity. Well instead of threads going alkie they're going anti-"W"!
Where's Shapley to weigh in on this one???
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Re: Explain this quote to me, please?

Postby Shapley » Wed Apr 20, 2005 11:52 am

Barfle,

RE: although the "you're with me or you're against me" statement is such an absolutist statement that I can't divorce it from tyranny.

Well, I've never associated Jesus with tyranny, but I suppose he is an absolutist. I think there are probably times when absolutism is a good thing.

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Re: Explain this quote to me, please?

Postby OperaTenor » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:27 pm

Originally posted by Shapley:
Barfle,

RE: [b]although the "you're with me or you're against me" statement is such an absolutist statement that I can't divorce it from tyranny.


Well, I've never associated Jesus with tyranny, but I suppose he is an absolutist. I think there are probably times when absolutism is a good thing.

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Re: Explain this quote to me, please?

Postby Shapley » Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:20 am

OT,

No, but he did use that line.

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Re: Explain this quote to me, please?

Postby RC » Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:39 am

I went shopping last night for my daughters birthday present and bought a compilation of the Federalist Papers and a Puccini CD. She's turning 15. You think she'll like them? :D LOL.

JK, I bought those for the household (OK...me), and sent my husband on a mission for MP3 players for my daughter.

Anyway, I have just barely begun this new book and it is fascinating. There is lots of background information included that I'm really enjoying. I can't believe how much I've forgotten!
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Re: Explain this quote to me, please?

Postby OperaTenor » Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:22 am

Hi Shap,

You mean Jesus stole that line from GWB?

Isn't that plagiarism?

A slight digression: In church, whenever there is a scripture reading that contains some of the passages Handel used for The Messiah, in the choir we look at each other and say something to the effect of, "There goes God, plagiarising from Handel again."
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Re: Explain this quote to me, please?

Postby treebeau » Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:25 am

Originally posted by Shapley:
... I think there are probably times when absolutism is a good thing.
Absolutely! ;)

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Re: Explain this quote to me, please?

Postby Shapley » Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:10 am

RC,

RE:bought a compilation of the Federalist Papers and a Puccini CD

Wow! The Federalist Papers and Puccini on one CD. Are the Papers sung in English?
:D

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Re: Explain this quote to me, please?

Postby piqaboo » Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:05 pm

Treebeau - clever fella!
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