OT said
A liar is still liar if he manipulates information and distorts the truth to lead others to draw a desired, inaccurate conclusion.
Shap paraphrased
Hmmmm! A liar is a liar even if he doesn't actually lie. Fascinating!
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HMMMMMM.
And even when I listed reasons Bush clearly wanted war, someone still refuses to admit "Anybody who assumes I wanted war is flat wrong" is a lie.
Selma is right. We're in a loop similar to the war itself. For one side, winning is simply keeping the other side from winning.
Yikes!! Pushing eyes back into sockets, circling date in red on