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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby hal 9000 » Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:03 pm

PSIP- I'm not sure where the report you saw last night came from, but I suspect it was a hoax. It contained a lot of sensational reports of the possible effects of the storm that NOAA just doesn't tend to report. That's not to say that this storm isn't dangerous, but that report seemed a bit TOO extreme.

Here is NOAA's Public Advisory from 11PM EDT (10PM CDT) last night:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2005/pub/al122005.public.025.shtml?

ZCZC MIATCPAT2 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
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HURRICANE KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 25
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
10 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO APPROACH
THE NORTHERN GULF COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST
FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA
BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.
PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO
COMPLETION.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA
EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 10 PM CDT...0300Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 27.6 NORTH...LONGITUDE 89.4 WEST OR ABOUT 105 MILES
SOUTH OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER AND ABOUT 170 MILES
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF NEW ORLEANS LOUISIANA.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 10 MPH...AND A
TURN TO THE NORTH IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. ON THE
FORECAST TRACK THE CENTER OF THE HURRICANE WILL BE VERY NEAR THE
NORTHERN GULF COAST MONDAY MORNING. HOWEVER...CONDITIONS ARE
ALREADY DETERIORATING ALONG PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL AND
NORTHEASTERN GULF COAST...AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORSEN THROUGH THE
NIGHT.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 160 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS. KATRINA
IS A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME
FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY PRIOR TO LANDFALL...AND KATRINA
IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AT EITHER CATEGORY FOUR OR FIVE
INTENSITY. WINDS AFFECTING THE UPPER FLOORS OF HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS
WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER THAN THOSE NEAR GROUND LEVEL.

KATRINA REMAINS A VERY LARGE HURRICANE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND
OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 230 MILES. A WIND GUST TO 90 MPH WAS
RECENTLY REPORTED FROM SOUTHWEST PASS LOUISIANA.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 904 MB...26.70 INCHES. AN
AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WILL BE REACHING THE
CENTER OF KATRINA VERY SHORTLY.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 28 FEET...ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL. SOME LEVEES IN THE GREATER NEW ORLEANS AREA
COULD BE OVERTOPPED. SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE FLOODING WILL OCCUR
ELSEWHERE ALONG THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF
COAST AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES
REGION TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE THIS EVENING OVER SOUTHEASTERN
LOUISIANA...SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...SOUTHERN ALABAMA...AND OVER THE
FLORIDA PANHANDLE TONIGHT.

REPEATING THE 10 PM CDT POSITION...27.6 N... 89.4 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 10 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...160 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 904 MB.

INTERMEDIATE ADVISORIES WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT MIDNIGHT CDT AND 2 AM CDT FOLLOWED
BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 4 AM CDT.

FORECASTER FRANKLIN


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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby Trumpetmaster » Mon Aug 29, 2005 12:42 pm

Hal9000

Good to see ZCZC and NNNN are still being used.

ZCZC starts a message and NNNN ends the message.

My age is showing here. We used to get telex messages on tape and had to read the tape for ZCZC and NNNN when processing the Telexes into a special system.

Man my age is showing here :)
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby zlosin » Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:18 pm

I agree Hal, it did look off the scale.

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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby zlosin » Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:40 pm

I found the complete message posted on a thread, I did actually see it on an NOAA site(at least it looked official, but then again) Maybe it was a local bullitn not from HQ. The link I used last night was:

http://weather.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/iwszone?Sites=:laz069
Fox News was reading it verbatim last night.

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA 1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005 ..DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED HURRICANE KATRINA A MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969.

MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. AT LEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.

THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL. PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE.

HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT.

AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATE ADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK.

POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEW CROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BE KILLED.

AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEAR HURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE...ARE CERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.
ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTURE OUTSIDE!
MSZ080>082-282100- HANCOCK-HARRISON-JACKSON- 1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby piqaboo » Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:42 pm

Katrina was unfriendly to So FL.
GC has friends and family there. Hey GC - have you heard, is everyone ok?

Katrina's first strike look down to the pix/slideshow area about midscreen.
Altoid - curiously strong.
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby OperaTenor » Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:39 pm

I heard on the news that Miami-Dade and Broward counties have been declared disaster areas, and the Governor of LA is prohibiting entry into the state of anyone except emergency workers.

There were ~10,000 people in the Superdome. There was a hole in the roof, but reports are everyone there is safe.
There is still the question of others who decided to stay in other areas of town.

No word on the extent of the flooding in NOLA.
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby mmichaelson » Mon Aug 29, 2005 4:04 pm

My cousin and his wife live in Pass Christian, MS. They fled about a week ago to her parents' house in Western La. No word on of their house made it yet. I don't know how hard Pass Christian was hit. Anyone else know??
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby monkeymd2b » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:04 pm

I still need to call my friends and classmates who are interns down in new orleans this year. I figure I might as well wait a few days since the phone lines will prolly be packed. I wonder if any got caught in the Code Grey - if you happen to be on call the day a storm hits, you're on call until replacements can be brought in.
I saw footage of clearview mall (near by where I used to live) and that was a bit unnerving. I guess I got out of there at the right time. I wonder what my old home looks like. It was on the top floor of the condo. I also wonder if the brain trust in charge there drained the pool. Not that it would have helped a whole lot but at least it would have held some of the water. The school shut down the computer servers so emailing my friends with tulane accounts is not an option. Well, I'm going to read abit then sleep.
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby zlosin » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:31 pm

I am sure a lot of the infrastructure is going to take a long time to bring back up.

Here is a video of a total moron

http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=www.wwltv.com/082905rescue.wmv
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby Serenity » Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:40 pm

Why do they make weather reports live from the scene? Why do they have to be in the street dressed in "appropriate weather grab"? What's the next step to out-do each other? Maybe the reporter can be paddling a canoe down a flooded street, interviewing people stranded on the roof or catching opportunistic looters trashing an ATM machine while the city is surrounded in devastation. Just report from the studio! If not, then maybe the support crew can help with added effects like tossing rubber chickens in the background, pretending the hurricane winds did that....

People there have a lot to deal with now. Seems like tough living conditions in "The Big Easy". I hope people with family and friends in the area are able to establish contact quickly.
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby dai bread » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:26 am

All the webcams seem to be out. So is the moron, though he may get a mention in the Darwin Awards. (All right, so they're fake. They're still a nice idea).
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby zlosin » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:33 am

Mayor of NO gives update:

http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=www.wwltv.com/082905mayor.wmv

This is unbeliveable. its pretty long.

highlights are:
Bodies are floating in the water
80% of NO is underwater, some sections 20 ft deep.
its going to take months to just get back to basics
2 block section of levy gone.
A major bridge is gone
People are screaming inside attics.
3 ships run a ground
1 oil tanker leaking
Airports underwater
buildings buring to the ground.
gas leaks with flames shooting out of the water
just awful stuff!!
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby zlosin » Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:43 am

Streaming Media Links

WWL-TV CBS Link (currently not in use): mms://eyenet.wm.llnwd.net/eyenet_livenews1

WDSU Primary: mms://a842.l1291238841.c12912.g.lm.akam ... 1/reflecto r:38841

WDSU Secondary (a digital subchannel - currently streaming a blue screen but may reactivate): http://mfile.akamai.com/12912/live/reflector:38202.asx

WKRG-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmb ... l_aug26200 5_1435_95518

WTOK-TV (follow the link on the home page): http://www.wtok.com/

WJTV-TV: mms://wmbcast.mgeneral.speedera.net/wmb ... l_aug26200 5_1435_95563

ABC-TV Network Special Feeds: http://mfile.akamai.com/12441/live/reflector:32715.ram

Gulf Coast Storm Network (radio): http://www.stormalert.net/main.html#

These stations are off the air:

WPMI-TV Mobile, AL - This station suffered extremely heavy damage from Katrina, was broadcasting on generator power, and then a lightning strike destroyed their primary transmitter. The station is off the air.

WLOX-TV Biloxi/Gulfport/Pascagoula, MS - This station was destroyed by Katrina. They are off the air indefinitely, but the station reports that their staff is safe. Don't expect to see them back on the air for some time unless they can rent facilities.
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby mmichaelson » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:29 am

My aunt says that my cousin and his wife are packing up neccessities from their safe haven and working their way back to their home in Mississippi,if they have one left, which isn't likely.
My cousin works for the Homeland Security department and has loaded up lots of chain saws onto his large truck - they figure that his badge and supplies will help him get through to their house.
My aunt is loading up Thursday (she's a Miami Hurricane Andrew survivor) to go help them. I'm heading to the store tonight to get massive amounts of supplies to overnight to her to take to them.
<sigh>
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby zlosin » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:49 am

Wow Saxy, best of luck to your family.
I don't know how to ship anything to that area. I am sure USP and Fedex are not making deliveries. I think we all feel pretty helpless now.
Where are these people going to go? Basically NO is gone. Evacuating the entire city.
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby mmichaelson » Tue Aug 30, 2005 10:53 am

Well, Travis and Janice are returning home. Pass Christian is right near Gulf Port, in Harrison County, which was pretty much wiped out. Hopefully FEMA will be there soon.

Like I said, I'm going to Wal-Mart tonight to get MANY supplies to send them via my aunt, who is leaving the Dallas area on Thursday to help them.

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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby OperaTenor » Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:05 am

Hi PSIP,

I watched the looooong interview with the mayor of NO on that link you provided(thanks again). And then I get today's paper, and it's like they're talking about a different place than the mayor. ARGH! To read the paper, it wasn't that bad, but as a comparison, the paper stated two fifteen-foot sections of the white coating peeled off the roof of the Superdome. From the footage aired during the interview with the mayor, it was obvious that half the roof was missing the coating. If that's any indication of the accuracy of the Sandy Eggo paper, I guess I'll stick to the comics and the crossword puzzle.
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby zlosin » Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:29 am

Late last night 3:30AM, I heard an interview on CNN with a woman from the University Medical center. she said " we are preparing to evacuate the hospital. The water is rising 1 inch every 5 min. It was dry during the storm but now is under 6 feet of water. Their gennys are on the second floor, and are expected to be under water in a few hours. There are 1000 patients in the hospital"

I have heard nothing about this today on the news, nor have I heard any remarks from the above statement by the mayor. Our news is being filtered. Why? Could it be that the authorities have no idea what to do? I guess the Army may be stepping in to take charge (even over FEMA)!
This needs to be looked at as a nuclear scenario.
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby Shapley » Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:34 am

As the nation witnesses the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, thousands are asking FOX News Channel how they can help.

The American Red Cross is taking donations to help the thousands of victims at http://www.redcross.org/donate/donate.html.

Following is a list of other Web sites offering disaster relief information:

Federal Emergency Management Agency
Phone: 1-800-621-FEMA
http://www.fema.gov/

Louisiana Homeland Security
http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/

City of New Orleans
http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx

Louisiana Governor's Office
http://www.gov.state.la.us/

Catholic Charities
Phone: 1-800-919-9338
http://www.catholiccharitiesusa.org/

FEMA Charity tips
http://www.fema.gov/rrr/help2.shtm

National Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster
http://www.nvoad.org/

Louisiana Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals
http://www.la-spca.org/

National Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster
Ande Miller, Executive Director
Email: amiller@nvoad.org
Phone: 703-339-5596

Local Red Cross contacts —

American Red Cross - Southeast Louisiana Chapter:
2640 Canal St.
New Orleans, LA 70119
Phone: (504) 620-3105 or (800) 229-8191
Fax: (504) 827-2135
http://www.arcno.org/?id=5&sub=3

Regional Service Centers —

NORTHSHORE REGION:
Regional Office
619 N. Tyler, Suite D
Covington, LA 70433
Phone: (985) 892-4317

Boothville, LA:
Phone: (985) 534-7449

Slidell, LA:
Phone: (985) 643-5608

Hammond, LA:
Phone: (985) 542-3469

Bogalusa, LA:
Phone: (985) 732-4227

BAYOU PARISHES REGION:
Regional Office
1231 Canal Blvd.
Thibodaux, LA 70302
Phone: (985) 447-3229
(Mail to: P.O. Box 102, Thibodaux, LA 70302)

Houma, LA:
Phone: (985) 872-6584

RIVER PARISHES REGION:
107 Maryland Dr., Suite D and E
Luling, LA 70070
Phone: (985) 785-0647

LaPlace, LA
Phone: (985) 652-9963

American Red Cross - Northwest Louisiana Chapter
4221 Linwood Avenue
Shreveport, LA 71108
Phone: (318) 865-9545
Fax: (318) 868-4111
Email: redcross@louisianaredcross.org
http://www.louisianaredcross.org

Red Cross Disaster Assistance info: (866) GET-INFO (866-438-4636)
http://www.redcross.org/contactus/


FEMA Regional Offices —
http://www.fema.gov/regions/

FEMA Region IV
(Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee)
3003 Chamblee-Tucker Rd.
Atlanta, GA 30341
Phone: (770) 220-5200

FEMA Region VI
(Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mexico, Oklahoma and Texas)
Federal Regional Center
800 N. Loop 288
Denton, Texas 76209
Phone: (940) 898-5399

State Emergency Organizations:

FEMA State Emergency Contact — http://www.fema.gov/fema/statedr.shtm

Alabama Department of Public Safety
Phone: (334) 242-4445
Website: http://www.dps.state.al.us

Alabama Emergency Management Agency
5898 County Road 41
P.O. Drawer 2160
Clanton, Alabama 35046-2160
Phone: 205-280-2200
Fax: 205-280-2495
Website: http://www.ema.alabama.gov

Florida Division of Emergency Management
2555 Shumard Oak Blvd.
Tallahassee, Florida 32399-2100
Phone: 850-413-9900
Email: florida.disaster@dca.state.fl.us
Website: http://www.floridadisaster.org

Florida Emergency Preparedness Association
Phone: 850-906-0779
Fax: 850-893-1845
Email: fepa@fepa.org
Website: http://www.fepa.org

Louisiana Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness
Phone: 225-925-7500
Fax: 225-925-7501
Website: http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov

Louisiana Office of Emergency Preparedness
7667 Independence Blvd.
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70806
Phone: (225) 925-7500
Fax: (225) 925-7501
http://www.loep.state.la.us

Mississippi Emergency Management Agency
P.O. Box 4501 - Fondren Station
Jackson, Mississippi 39296-4501
Phone: (601) 352-9100
Toll Free Phone: (800) 442-6362
Fax: (601) 352-8314
http://www.mema.state.ms.us
http://www.msema.org/mitigate/mssaferoominit.htm

Georgia Emergency Management Agency
P.O. Box 18055
Atlanta, Georgia 30316-0055
Phone: (404) 635-7000
Fax: (404) 635-7205
http://www.State.Ga.US/GEMA/
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Re: Katrina 2005

Postby zlosin » Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:39 am

Just to be my normal smart A$$ self,

I wonder how much aid France has pledged for the relief. or the UN?
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