Originally posted by piqaboo:
1) organizations are self dealing. Its life. Name one that isnt._____?
Just about any non-profit that wants to be taken seriously as a charitable organization. That would exclude most non-profits that you've ever seen with a "Hollywood" endorsement. Read this quote, bolding mine.
Until 1995 HSUS also controlled the Humane Society of Canada (HSC), which HSUS president Paul Irwin had founded four years earlier. But Irwin, who claimed to live in Canada when he set up HSC, turned out to be ineligible to run a Canadian charity (He actually lived in Maryland). Irwin’s Canadian passport was ultimately revoked and he was replaced as HSC’s executive director.
The new leader later hauled HSUS into court to answer charges that Irwin had transferred over $1 million to HSUS from the Canadian group. HSUS claimed it was to pay for HSC’s fundraising, but didn’t provide the group with the required documentation to back up the expenses. In January 1997 a Canadian judge ordered HSUS to return the money, writing: “I cannot imagine a more glaring conflict of interest or a more egregious breach of fiduciary duty. It demonstrates an overweening arrogance of a type seldom seen.”
Originally posted by piqaboo:
2) ?supporting terrorist groups? So they and now you allege. Tell me more? Like, an example, perhaps?
The group completed its animal-rights transformation during the 1990s, changing its personnel in the process. HSUS assimilated dozens of staffers from PETA and other animal-rights groups, even employing John “J.P.” Goodwin, a former Animal Liberation Front member and spokesman with a lengthy arrest record and a history of promoting arson to accomplish animal liberation.
Let me lay it out for you, 'cause I'm pissed! My friend has a nursery business that is good but not great. He wanted to start breeding monkeys for labs on part of his land to even out the cash flow. These effing terrorist bastards came in the middle of the night and trashed his nursery and spray-painted death threats on his building, just because he proposed this business. Terrorism, straight up! PETA fully supports these nuts and is therefore a terrorism supporter just as a Hamas is. You bet I'm pissed. When I see a celebrity like Pam Anderson supporting PETA, I want to tear the top of her empty skull off and scream down in it. "YOU SUPPORT TERRORISTS YOU HYPOCRITICAL JERK!"
Let me give you a little thought experiment. You're looking for colleges for Altoid. You find a nice school but you discover that a former right-hand man to Yassar Arafat is on the board. Wouldn't that give you pause as to what the hell this college's values are? When I find a former ALF member working for a charitable organization I sure as hell ain't gonna send my money there.
Originally posted by piqaboo:
3) "trading off".... nope. They came first, they get the name. The shelters chose to use same name. Nothing in the lit they send me pretends to support local animal rescue or shelters. They claim to lobby for legislation for the better treatment of animals. Just because someone thinks everything called an egg comes from a chicken does not make the snake a liar!
Still not convinced.
HSUS is big, rich, and powerful, a “humane society” in name only. And while most local animal shelters are under-funded and unsung, HSUS has accumulated $113 million in assets and built a recognizable brand by capitalizing on the confusion its very name provokes. This misdirection results in an irony of which most animal lovers are unaware: HSUS raises enough money to finance animal shelters in every single state, with money to spare, yet it doesn’t operate a single one anywhere.
Instead, HSUS spends millions on programs that seek to economically cripple meat and dairy producers; eliminate the use of animals in biomedical research labs; phase out pet breeding, zoos, and circus animal acts; and demonize hunters as crazed lunatics. HSUS spends $2 million each year on travel expenses alone, just keeping its multi-national agenda going.
Bolding mine. This is both sad and sick. That money could be going to the saving of animal lives, real humane-ity, instead it goes to the lobbying of specious and wrongheaded laws that are anti-progress and unwanted by the general population.
The HSUS has worked itself out of a job from its origins. Animals are better protected now by law and organization than at any time in US history. They should disband and use their bank acount to set up a trust fund for shelters across the land so that no other animal has to be needlessly destroyed. That's humane.
Full story from which I used the quotes that I'm ranting about:
http://activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/136 And the PETA-Terrorism Story:
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