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Postby piqaboo » Wed May 31, 2006 4:14 pm

If Clara Schumann whipped CO2 into her gelato, she'd have invented icecream.
Altoid - curiously strong.
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Postby Shapley » Wed May 31, 2006 4:47 pm

Are you suggesting that mint-flavoured gelato is the primary source of freshly-minted CO2?
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Postby dai bread » Wed May 31, 2006 7:15 pm

Shapley wrote "Ah! For a heaping plate of steamed Apteryx...."

Someone suggested a while ago, quite seriously, that kiwi should be farmed. They're endangered, and the suggestion arose because no farmed animal has ever gone extinct.

I think it's probably unfortunate that the idea was scorned.
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Postby Shapley » Wed May 31, 2006 8:53 pm

I've heard the same argument for other species as well.
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Postby BigJon@Work » Wed May 31, 2006 9:11 pm

Just so another thread can go alky:
The fermentation of alcohol takes a simple sugar and creates 2 alcohols and a carbon dioxide. To save the planet, you must give up alcohol. I wonder how far that will go . . .
http://scifun.chem.wisc.edu/chemweek/ET ... hanol.html
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Postby Selma in Sandy Eggo » Wed May 31, 2006 10:02 pm

dai bread wrote:...kiwi should be farmed. They're endangered, and the suggestion arose because no farmed animal has ever gone extinct.

I think it's probably unfortunate that the idea was scorned.


I think it has. The European aurochs. I don't think there are any still around, at all, anywhere, but their descendents are still here. Jerseys, guernseys, Charolais, Angus, etc. Isn't it amazing what selective breeding can do?

And I think the Prszwalski's horse is the only un-extinct unfarmed horse left, too.

I wonder what farmed kiwi would have turned into? Heck, I wonder what farmed ostriches will end up as!
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Postby dai bread » Wed May 31, 2006 11:45 pm

Think of the drumsticks! Bigger than chicken; more manageable than ostrich! :wink:
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Postby DavidS » Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:26 am

Selma in Sandy Eggo wrote:
dai bread wrote:.
I wonder what farmed kiwi would have turned into? Heck, I wonder what farmed ostriches will end up as!

No kiddin' - I think ostriches, as well as llamas, are farmed somewhere in Southern Israel.
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Postby Shapley » Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:15 am

Ostriches were farmed here in America, still are I suppose. A few years back it was fashionable, but the American public wasn't ready to put ostrich meat on their tables in large quantity, so the supply exceeded the demand. Sheriff Joe Arpayo, down in Phoenix, was serving ostrich meat to prisoners a few years back. It had been donated to him by a ostrich rancher getting out of the business.

Llamas are raised here, as well, although alpacas are far more prevalent.

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Postby BigJon@Work » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:12 am

My BiL has an “alternate” meat processing business. The ostrich meat problem was one of scale. He tried it for a while but the economics just didn’t work out for him. The carcass was way too big to be handled by the traditional chicken and turkey processors and it wouldn’t work on the beef/pork/sheep equipment. So every bird had to be custom butchered. If you’ve ever had custom butchering done, you know how much more expensive the meat is. No one was willing to invest in the full scale production equipment needed to make ostrich meat price competitive because the market for the meat wasn’t yet proven. It was a classic ostrich and egg conundrum.
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Postby barfle » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:58 am

There used to be a llama ranch along I15 north of Lake Elsinore, somewhere around the nudist camp. I don't remember seeing it last time I was in the area, though.
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Postby Schmeelkie » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:46 am

I'll have to ask my folks if the llama farm in the north part of their town is still in operation. I remember visiting several years ago around Christmas time and driving past it - shocked to see llamas - and they had these little piles of snow on their backs...funny

I'd go with animal and human respiration for CO2 producers - know we get tons from cows. Even before you defenestrate them...
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Postby Shapley » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:07 pm

I did a quick Google search for Llama ranches, and found quite a few, even as far north as Ontario, Canada.

Here is a link to one in Oregon:

Hidden Oaks Llama Ranch

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Postby Shapley » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:37 pm

Today is Friday, isn't it?

You can usually hear a pin drop on the Bulletin Board on Friday afternoon, yet there are four people logged on, and six active topics when I returned from lunch.

What's up with that?

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Postby BenODen » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:39 pm

Must be the bboard isn't as slow and painful as it was at one point.
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Postby Serenity » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:45 pm

4 are logged on but nobody's posting! Wha's up wit dat?
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Postby jamiebk » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:46 pm

Must be the bboard isn't as slow and painful as it was at one point.


I think you are right. BB was really not working very well. I was losing patience/interest as frustration set in. I am working from home today and thus have better access than at my H-U-G-E-L-Y firewalled work computer. ZZeeeech...security is one thing but installing firewalls, spam filters, virus detectors, "monitoring software", and proxy servers to the point of grinding things to a halt is another!
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Postby Shapley » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:53 pm

That's the way of the world. Build a faster computer, and the software geeks will build the software to slow it back down.

I used to have dial-up at home. When you first turned on your computer, you might as well go and make a sandwich and a cup of coffee, because all the various items set to auto-update would take over, and for the first thrity or more minutes, the computer was unusable.

Disable the auto-update features, and little pop-ups keep appearing here and there, reminding yout that your computer may be at risk because the definitions aren't up-to-date enough to protect you.

Very, very annoying.
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Postby Serenity » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:57 pm

jamiebk wrote:
Must be the bboard isn't as slow and painful as it was at one point.


I think you are right. BB was really not working very well. I was losing patience/interest as frustration set in. I am working from home today and thus have better access than at my H-U-G-E-L-Y firewalled work computer. ZZeeeech...security is one thing but installing firewalls, spam filters, virus detectors, "monitoring software", and proxy servers to the point of grinding things to a halt is another!


You actually worked from "home"......in Wine Country!.............on a Friday!............COME ON!
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Postby Selma in Sandy Eggo » Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:02 pm

Yup. I just got the 2003 Office suite pushed to my machine, a few weeks ago. I can no longer keep Outlook open all day to monitor for new email. It is now enough of a memory hog that I can't run it and Quicksilver at the same time without one of them eventually crashing, and since it's Quicksilver that I need to use on the books... :?

I looked at Task Manager just now. I've got 3 programs running (Explorer, Media Player, and Quicksilver). Click over to the "processes" tab and there are 53 processes running. Is all this security really necessary?

It takes my machine 17 minutes in the morning, between when I log on and when I can start doing actual work.

Fortunately, I can consume coffee for those 17 minutes. That probably improves the work, when it finally begins.
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