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dai bread wrote:Odd how the CO2 level rises so sharply every 100k yr or so. Has mankind existed before? Or is there something going on that nobody's talking about?
Shapley wrote: .......... Do we really believe that the Al Gore's of the world even have an inkling of how to do that?
Thanks for your (as usual) thoughtful observations.
I'm not enough of a mathematician to appreciate their math models. Maybe Shos is. I gather the climatologists are largely still looking backward trying to curve fit. The more wiggly the line the harder the fit.
I have tinkered with automatic controls enough to appreciate that closed-loop feedback systems behave profoundly different than simple forward connected cause-effect ones. In fact, that mathematics was one of the war prizes brought back from WW2 Germany. When I see the climatologists start talking about 'feedback mechanisms' I know they're finally applying the right kind of math.. I also worked around simulators enough to know that programmers get so involved in the computer they lose distinction between their models and reality. I haven't found an article that describes how they're modeling GW. I'd guess they've miscalculated or omitted some of Mother Nature's feedback mechanisms.
And --- No I don't trust Al Gore's science."In 1965, Gore enrolled at Harvard College, the only university to which he applied...... He scored in the lower fifth of the class for two years in a row  and, after finding himself bored with his classes in his declared English major, Gore switched majors and worked hard in his government courses and graduated from Harvard in June 1969 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in government. .
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