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Postby Shapley » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:01 am

Is there a keyboard used in the work?
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Postby Shapley » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:02 am

Is it a trio? If not a trio, is it a quintet?
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:10 am

14. Is the composer German or Austrian?

No.

15. If not, French?

Yes.

16. Is there more than one movements or part?

Yes.

17. Is there a keyboard used in the work?

Yes.

18. Is it a trio?

Yes.
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Postby navneeth » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:26 am

Was the composer born in the 18th century?
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Postby Shapley » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:30 am

Is the composer Edouard Lalo?
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:35 am

19. Was the composer born in the 18th century?

No.

20. Is the composer Edouard Lalo?

No.
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:39 am

Recapping again:

    - A trio of some kind, with a keyboard instrument featured, more than one movement, and does not have vocals/chorus.
    -Written between 1827-1850 by a French composer.
    -Composer was not born in the 18th century
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Postby navneeth » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:43 am

Is the composer Charles-Valentin Alkan?

If so, my guess: Trio, for violin, cello & piano in G minor, Op. 30
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:46 am

Whoa Navneeth, two questions aced in one post!

You got it! Alkan's Op. 30 it is, a colossal and beautiful piano trio.
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Postby bignaf » Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:08 am

I forgot you were the Alkan fan... :D
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Postby navneeth » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:01 pm

And 30Q introduces me to the music of yet another composer. Thanks, Hex.
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Postby Catmando » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:38 pm

Wow Nav! Phenomenal guess! :)
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:46 pm

It definitely was a phenomenal guess. I thought the composer/piece I picked was a little obscure and I wondered if it would be too hard to figure out. Although I must have revealed my favoritism for Alkan somewhere, as bignaf noted, I still thought I would get 5 more questions, at least asking if it was Saint-Saens or something. But Nav nailed it.
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Postby shostakovich » Mon Oct 09, 2006 7:04 pm

bignaf wrote:
shostakovich wrote:One of Schubert's last works?

Whoever asks about 1827 should probably use 1829 or 1830, lumping Schubert and Beethoven as in or out.

Just a suggestion for the future.
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funny you should consider Schubert a major composer. :D
I invented the 1827 question, mostly because I would have Schubert in mind when thinking of romantic music, not so with Beethoven. but I guess 1829 would be better, just two years and you eliminate another so-called major composer.
and, BTW, if you were going to ask such a small elimination question (Schubert late works), :rolleyes: you should at least ask 1829 to eliminate a fe w more pieces. :evil:


You're right. Asking "Before 1829?" would have eliminated some additional works. I just couldn't think of any others in 1828. By the way, I like Death and the Maiden, even though I still don't consider Schubert a major composer. Lots of people do.

Congrats to both Hex and Nav. I'm impressed.
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Postby Catmando » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:17 pm

I'm no expert, but I would have to consider Schubert a "major" composer.

I'm thinking if not Top 10, for sure Top 20 of all-time. IMHO.
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:37 pm

I'm with you Catmando. Schubert is a demi-god of composers and is definitely in the top 20.
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Postby Catmando » Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:49 am

navneeth wrote:And 30Q introduces me to the music of yet another composer. Thanks, Hex.


Same here, I'd never heard of Charles-Valentin Alkan until now. Sounds like an underrated. Even Lizst apparently was quoted as saying he had the perfect "technique". Interesting. :)
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Postby Hexameron » Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:46 am

Well, Catmando, Alkan is one of those composers that confuses the music intelligentsia. His Op. 39 is probably the most original and ingenious set of piano compositions in the Romantic period. The Concerto for Solo Piano is comfortably shoulder-to-shoulder with Liszt's Sonata in B minor. But so many don't want to believe it or accept the fact that masterpieces can be ignored for so long. They think history proved that Alkan wasn't great because hardly anyone even heard of him.

I guess they didn't learn from Mendelssohn with Bach. You have to revive these forgotten masters. How can anyone grade their music if no one even hears it?

Here's my amazon list of Alkan CD's you can get if any of you are interested:

http://www.amazon.com/Discover-the-grea ... 16-2298404
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Postby Catmando » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:01 am

I think if you were French but weren't an Opera composer in the early part of the 19th Century, you were simply dismissed and ignored.

Antoine de l'hoyer is another example.
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Postby navneeth » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:08 pm

I just noted in Wikipedia's disambiguation page that Alkan was, strangely, identified by his religion rather than his nationality. So I changed it.
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