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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:16 pm

23. Is it a variation on an overture?

No.

24. Was it composed in the same year that the Battle of Velasco took place?

No.

25. If not, was it composed earlier?

No.
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Postby Shapley » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:21 pm

Is it a variation on a work by Hector Berlioz?
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:22 pm

Recapping:

  • Piano composition by Franz Liszt
  • Variations written between 1832-1850
  • Variations are written on the work of another composer, but not to an overture
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:22 pm

26. Is it a variation on a work by Hector Berlioz?

No.
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Postby Catmando » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:26 pm

Is it a variation on a work by Beethoven?

if not,

Is it a variation on a work by Schubert?
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:29 pm

27. Is it a variation on a work by Beethoven?

No.

28. Is it a variation on a work by Schubert

No.
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Postby Shapley » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:36 pm

I'm going to take my guess and say it is Divertissement on the Cavatina "I tuoi frequenti palpiti" from Pacini's La Niobe
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:43 pm

No, sorry Shapley :(

Since we're down to the wire, let me just say that it was hard to fit this particular composition into some of your questions; there's a chance I might have mislead you all, but you still have 2 questions left.
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Postby Catmando » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:45 pm

If Shap's guess is wrong,


Is it a variation of a Chopin work?
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Postby Shapley » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:49 pm

No, sorry Shapley


Don't sweat it. I really didn't want to do the next one, anyway. :D

Is it an Etude?
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:49 pm

29. Is it a variation of a Chopin work?

No.

Ok. One hint: think of the theme behind Edgar Allan Poe's "Purloined Letter" :deal:
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Postby Shapley » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:26 pm

étude, Bruté?
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:32 pm

Is it an Etude?

I won't count that as a question since we've narrowed the piece down to a set of variations.
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Postby Shapley » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:38 pm

But the Grande Etudes du Paganini are variations on themes by Paganini in étude form, are they not? :?
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:53 pm

Yes, but a lot of Liszt's solo works can be misconstrued as variations like the Totentanz and operatic fantasies.

My composition is strictly known and titled as a set of variations. And that's what I thought would have been determined by the question, "Is the composition a variation on the work of another composer?"

Diabelli variations, Variations on a theme of Chopin, Variations on "Non piu andrai" etc.
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Postby Shapley » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:58 pm

Sorry, not being a pianist (but I have drank a lot of tea, so I could be the peein'ist), I assume that any work which modifies the form of another while retaining some semblance of the original theme is a variation, while that variation can be written in the form of a sonata, étude, fantasia, or whatever. That was what I meant when I asked the question.
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Postby bignaf » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:00 pm

Shapley wrote:But the Grande Etudes du Paganini are variations on themes by Paganini in étude form, are they not? :?


you're right, but don't complain for hex letting us get away with this one. :D
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:12 pm

Well Shap, I guess that's true, but since you've got just ONE question left, I won't use the etude one. I lend thee all a freebie question for #30.

I'm actually surprised no one has gotten this yet. I hope that means I didn't foul up somewhere with my yes or no's. As a disclaimer, this particular piece was hard to fit in to the standard questions. If I messed up, you can all beat me later :poke:

But you're so close...
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Postby bignaf » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:17 pm

is the piece a collaboration with other composers?
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Postby Hexameron » Mon Oct 16, 2006 4:21 pm

30. is the piece a collaboration with other composers?

What a perfect 30th question. Yes :crazy:
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