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Postby bignaf » Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:40 am

clarification: as usual, no featured instruments included no featured voices, right?
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Postby Shapley » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:38 am

Are all the voices feminine in gender?
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Postby dai bread » Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:21 pm

20. Is it considered sacred music?

No.

21. Is it a Werk ohne Opuszahl?

No. It has an opus number.

22. Are all the voices feminine in gender?

No.

Re clarification: I don't consider voices as instruments. I know there are references to singers having "wonderful instruments", but I think that's hyperbole. An instrument is something you pick up and use for a purpose. A tool, if you like. In the case of music, a tool for making nice sounds. Voices come naturally. Instruments don't.

Recap: a composition by Brahms written between 1865 & 1897 (see below), in more than one section, and not in D major. It is for orchestra & voice(s), not all female. It is not considered sacred music, and the sections are not labelled. Not based on folk themes, nor does it contain any highlighted instruments within the definition I've given above. I won't try & fudge the orchestral issue by trying to pretend it might be for a chamber group. It's for orchestra, though as I said at Q9, no percussion,
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Postby Hexameron » Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:29 pm

Is the opus number higher than 60?
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Postby dai bread » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:06 pm

23. Is the opus number higher than 60?

No.
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Postby bignaf » Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:33 pm

as far as I can tell, no piece fits the available data.
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Postby dai bread » Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:54 pm

7 questions to go, big. If I've slipped up somewhere I'll have to apologise, but I googled the key and it didn't say D major. Apart from the data on Brahm's birthplace, and I'm only 99% sure about the lack of percussion (my ears aren't what they were), the details are off my CD booklet.
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Postby dai bread » Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:22 am

Crash! :oops:

Q3: the answer should have been no! (The Dunedin Jewish Congregation was set up in 1862).

Q4: the answer should have been yes. Maxwell's work was published in 1865.

Big's query sent me back to the drawing board. Sorry about this, folks. this gives a date of composition between 1865 and Brahm's death in 1897.

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Postby navneeth » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:51 am

Sorry for setting up that question. :( Generally, textbooks give the year that Maxwell published his equations as 1864, (and a check with the Journals of the Royal Society put it at 63/64 and one as 65 :? ). So we're okay as long as the piece was not composed from 1862-65. :)


Is it a "certain number of songs"?
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Postby Hexameron » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:19 am

Does the word "triumph" appear in the title of the piece?
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Postby Shapley » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:17 am

Does the composition have anything to do with the Moirae?
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Postby navneeth » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:48 am

Shap, it's not sacred music.
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Postby Shapley » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:06 am

Thanks, Nav. I've removed that part of the question. I'll add; If it has nothing to do with the Fates, is it a cantata?
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Postby dai bread » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:30 pm

24. Is it a "certain number of songs"?

No.

25. Does the word "triumph" appear in the title of the piece?

No.

26. Does the composition have anything to do with the Moirae?

No.

27. is it a cantata?

No.

I'm surprised this has taken so long. I thought it was quite a well-known piece, and Hex got the composer quite easily. Maybe my errors put you off, so if you like I'll allow another, say 5 questions, to go to 35.
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Postby Shapley » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:35 pm

Is it a Rhapsody?
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Postby Hexameron » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:54 pm

dai bread wrote:I thought it was quite a well-known piece, and Hex got the composer quite easily.


Well, it was bignaf's question that aced that one: born in hamburg. I can only think of one composer born in hamburg and that's Johannes.

I know nav asked if it was a "certain number of songs," but is the composition considered a song?
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Postby Catmando » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:43 pm

Choral work?
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Postby Catmando » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:53 pm

dai bread wrote:the details are off my CD booklet.

Ummm, Dai, you could always post your CD collection in the "Your Collection" thread, and we could take it from there! :P
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Postby Serenity » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:08 pm

Is the opus number 40 or higher?
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Postby Serenity » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:44 pm

Is it Wiegenlied, aka "Brahms Lullaby"? :toast:
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