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My poor wife crashed our new car this morning on her maiden voyage. She was well below the posted speed limit, but a combination of the rain-slicked roads, curves and an unfamiliar car caused her to spin into the ditch.
analog wrote: Glad she wasn't injured, BJ. I hope the insurance co is fair with you.
analog wrote:Front wheel drive, rain slick pavement, decelerating into a turn = a setup for spin.
BigJon wrote:analog wrote:
Front wheel drive, rain slick pavement, decelerating into a turn = a setup for spin.
Front Wheel Drive! Perish the thought. This was a rear-wheel-drive Volvo station wagon. .......
Serenity wrote:Why are vehicles engineered to go way over the speed limit? Maybe all cars sold should not be able to go past the max speed limit; our commute to work would feel like the bumper cars at amusement parks
Selma in Sandy Eggo wrote:I've always been very happy with FWD sedans - good traction and they always performed well in such weather as SoCal gets..........
Only car I ever put in a ditch was a RWD Oldsmobile, though, so I may be biased.
"The findings indicate that ESC should be standard on all vehicles," says Susan Ferguson, Institute senior vice president for research. "Very few safety technologies show this kind of large effect in reducing crash deaths."
............How ESC works: Antilock brakes have speed sensors and independent braking capability. ESC adds sensors that continuously monitor how well a vehicle is responding to a driver's steering wheel input. These sensors can detect when a driver is about to lose control because the vehicle is straying from the intended line of travel — a problem that usually occurs in high-speed maneuvers or on slippery roads. In these circumstances, ESC brakes individual wheels automatically to keep the vehicle under control.
Black box' information driving convictions
Oct 3, 2005
By: Tim Sramcik
Automotive Body Repair News
In what is becoming a familiar scene in courtrooms nationwide, information collected from a car’s “black box” was used to convict a motorist of criminal charges.
On June 30, a Peabody, Mass., District Court jury found Michelle Zimmerman guilty of misdemeanor motor vehicle homicide in the death of her front seat passenger, Kenneth Carlson. The jury concluded Zimmerman was driving negligently when she skidded out of control and struck a tree on Jan. 4, 2003. Information collected from the event data recorder (EDR), or black box, in her GMC Yukon reported that Zimmerman was driving 58 mph in a 40 mph zone—on an icy road, according to Essex Assistant District Attorney William J. Melkonian. EDR data also showed that Zimmerman never applied the brakes.
In 2005, it was estimated that about 64 percent of passenger cars on the market came equipped from the factory with "Event Data Recorders" that kept a computer record of various things a driver was doing in the moments just before and after a serious impact. The number today is certainly much higher and the devices are becoming more advanced.
A recent rule passed by NHTSA requires manufacturers to tell people, in the owners manual, if their car has one of these data-recording devices. As it turns out, that formation has been in most owners' manuals for years. It's just that few people read their owners manuals.
The EDRs don't record voices and they only record a few seconds of data about what the car was doing right before and after the crash. Proponents point to the life-saving potential of that data which can be used to assess the performance of a car's safety systems and even to research unusual crash scenarios.
Despite the positive potential, many people still have concerns about their privacy. After all, the car they drive every day could turn snitch.
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